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FRONT PAGE  |  10/18/2021
SUNDAY, JAN 6, 2008  |  21 comments
Theologian who heralded the death of God ponders his own
PORTLAND, Ore. — It was a quiet Sunday afternoon in 1938 when something went terribly wrong near young Bill Hamilton's house. His teenage friends had been building pipe bombs. One, an Episcopalian, was dead. Another, a Catholic, lay on the grass fatally injured. And the third, the son of an atheist, emerged without a scratch.

How, Hamilton wondered, could a just God allow this? Why do the innocent suffer? Does God intervene in human lives?

"Theodicy came to dwell in my 14-year-old head that Sunday," he says.

The questions haunted Hamilton at his friends' funerals, at school, in the Navy, at seminary and in his years as a theology professor in upstate New York. By 1966, he had an answer, and it landed him in Time and Playboy magazines: God was dead. ...


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News Item1/10/08 5:51 PM
terry evans | miramar beach fl  Contact via emailFind all comments by terry evans
AntiVaticanistAmerican wrote:
NO, They ALL Didn't DIE. The Only One That DIED Was The Episcopalian Teenager !
And, NO, They Weren't CARELESSLY PLAYING "with pipe bombs" ! The Teenage Friends "had been BUILDING pipe bombs." !
Misinformation & Disinformation (Misquoting & Misconstruing) Can Do More Damage; and, Cause More Confusion: As Can Willfully Denying The Spiritual and/or Psychological Origins, Implications and Conclusions of THIS MATTER !
"BLESS GOD, IF "'GOD' IS DEAD"; I'D LIKE TO MEET THE DOCTOR WHO SIGNED HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE !" -- DR. JACK FRASER HYLES; LATE-20TH & EARLY-21TH CENTURY FUNDAMENTALIST INDEPENDENT BAPTIST PASTOR, PREACHER, EVANGELIST, REVIVALIST, DOCTOR OF DIVINITY, SOUL-WINNER AND BEST-FRIEND OF THE COMMONERS: SINNERS & SAINTS
Hi Jack
Once again, you mis the whole point
Swallow a gnat thing.
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News Item1/10/08 2:37 PM
huh?  Find all comments by huh?
Mike wrote:
What does "fatally injured" mean these days?
Exactement!
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News Item1/10/08 1:07 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
AntiVaticanistAmerican wrote:
NO, They ALL Didn't DIE. The Only One That DIED Was The Episcopalian Teenager !
And, NO, They Weren't CARELESSLY PLAYING "with pipe bombs" ! The Teenage Friends "had been BUILDING pipe bombs." !
Misinformation & Disinformation (Misquoting & Misconstruing) Can Do More Damage; and, Cause More Confusion: As Can Willfully Denying The Spiritual and/or Psychological Origins, Implications and Conclusions of THIS MATTER !
"BLESS GOD, IF "'GOD' IS DEAD"; I'D LIKE TO MEET THE DOCTOR WHO SIGNED HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE !" -- DR. JACK FRASER HYLES; LATE-20TH & EARLY-21TH CENTURY FUNDAMENTALIST INDEPENDENT BAPTIST PASTOR, PREACHER, EVANGELIST, REVIVALIST, DOCTOR OF DIVINITY, SOUL-WINNER AND BEST-FRIEND OF THE COMMONERS: SINNERS & SAINTS
Lots of words. The Catholic died as well. What does "fatally injured" mean these days? Read it again. No need to misinform. Causes confusion. But, to be precise, they died because they were carelessly BUILDING pipe bombs. Is that better?
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News Item1/10/08 12:13 PM
huh?  Find all comments by huh?
So we can look forward to more of this new found precision for factual detail and original source quotes in AVA's own posts?
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News Item1/10/08 10:54 AM
AntiVaticanistAmerican | U.S.A.  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
"huh?" wrote:
huh?
Where did "mike" get his information that "they played carelessly with pipe bombs" ?

Surely NOT from The Article "Theologian who hearlded the death of God ponders his own" !

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News Item1/10/08 10:43 AM
huh?  Find all comments by huh?
AntiVaticanistAmerican wrote:
And, NO, They Weren't CARELESSLY PLAYING "with pipe bombs" ! The Teenage Friends "had been BUILDING pipe bombs." !
huh?
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News Item1/10/08 10:38 AM
AntiVaticanistAmerican | U.S.A.  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
mike wrote:
They died because they played carelessly with pipe bombs...
NO, They ALL Didn't DIE. The Only One That DIED Was The Episcopalian Teenager !

And, NO, They Weren't CARELESSLY PLAYING "with pipe bombs" ! The Teenage Friends "had been BUILDING pipe bombs." !

Misinformation & Disinformation (Misquoting & Misconstruing) Can Do More Damage; and, Cause More Confusion: As Can Willfully Denying The Spiritual and/or Psychological Origins, Implications and Conclusions of THIS MATTER !

"BLESS GOD, IF "'GOD' IS DEAD"; I'D LIKE TO MEET THE DOCTOR WHO SIGNED HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE !" -- DR. JACK FRASER HYLES; LATE-20TH & EARLY-21TH CENTURY FUNDAMENTALIST INDEPENDENT BAPTIST PASTOR, PREACHER, EVANGELIST, REVIVALIST, DOCTOR OF DIVINITY, SOUL-WINNER AND BEST-FRIEND OF THE COMMONERS: SINNERS & SAINTS

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News Item1/8/08 12:03 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
They died because they played carelessly with pipe bombs. There is little to be gained by spiritualizing it.
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News Item1/8/08 11:39 AM
AntiAtheistAmerican | U.S.A.  Find all comments by AntiAtheistAmerican
I like what Dr. Jack Fraser Hyles said about the Big "'God' is dead" Lie; that so-called "theologian" Bill Hamilton said in 1966:

"Bless God, if "'God' is Dead"; I'd like to meet the doctor who signed His death certificate!"

Note: The fact that an Episcopalian teenager was dead; shows that back then, in 1938, he would've dropped "dead" anyway: if he found out that the Episcopalians of the 21st Century would ordain Sodomites as Episcopal Priests!

The fact that a Roman Catholic teenager lay on the grass fatally injured; shows that Roman Catholics have been spiritually "fatally injured" by the Sacerdotal Sodomites that they have had as Roman Catholic Priests, lo, these Past 18 Centuries of Human History!

The fact that the third, the teenage son of an atheist, emerged "without a scratch"; shows that Almighty God Doesn't Judge an atheist's son for the "atheism" of his father.

Almighty God will judge him for his own personal atheism.

Evidently, the atheist's son may not have adhered to the "atheism" of his father!

Conclusion:

Should we then conclude that "pipe bombs" are a lithmus test to the existence of Almighty God?

Or, That According to the mentality of teenagers in 1938; The Worst Sins Are:

#1. Atheism

#2. Roman Catholicism

#3. Episcopalianism ?

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News Item1/8/08 7:41 AM
Sir Straightforward | Phoenix  Find all comments by Sir Straightforward
Why do we even give fools like this media space???
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News Item1/8/08 7:32 AM
terry evans | miramar beach fl  Contact via emailFind all comments by terry evans
davey wrote:
"Terv" means hi or goodbye depending if you are meeting a person or leaving. Terv, davey
Aloha
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News Item1/8/08 3:15 AM
davey | finland  Find all comments by davey
"Terv" means hi or goodbye depending if you are meeting a person or leaving. Terv, davey
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News Item1/8/08 2:01 AM
Query  Find all comments by Query
Lance Eccles wrote:
I think it's supposed to be "terve", Finnish for something like "cheers".
Thank you, Lance. I thought I was missing something.
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News Item1/7/08 7:57 PM
terry evans | miramar beach fl  Contact via emailFind all comments by terry evans
Mike wrote:
"PORTLAND, Ore. — It was a quiet Sunday afternoon in 1938 when something went terribly wrong near young Bill Hamilton's house. His teenage friends had been building pipe bombs. One, an Episcopalian, was dead. Another, a Catholic, lay on the grass fatally injured. And the third, the son of an atheist, emerged without a scratch.
How, Hamilton wondered, could a just God allow this? Why do the innocent suffer?"
I suppose it is difficult to grasp the concept that they died because they were playing with pipe bombs, but that would require acceptance of the idea that there is personal responsibility for the use of one's will to do what one wants to do and to deal with the ensuing results.
cool
Reminds me, did you hear the one about
nevermind
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News Item1/7/08 7:32 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"PORTLAND, Ore. — It was a quiet Sunday afternoon in 1938 when something went terribly wrong near young Bill Hamilton's house. His teenage friends had been building pipe bombs. One, an Episcopalian, was dead. Another, a Catholic, lay on the grass fatally injured. And the third, the son of an atheist, emerged without a scratch.
How, Hamilton wondered, could a just God allow this? Why do the innocent suffer?"

I suppose it is difficult to grasp the concept that they died because they were playing with pipe bombs, but that would require acceptance of the idea that there is personal responsibility for the use of one's will to do what one wants to do and to deal with the ensuing results.

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News Item1/7/08 6:38 PM
Wayne M. | British Columbia, Canada  Find all comments by Wayne M.
The CBC Television website has a forum going right now called "Where is God?". Hundreds of people are leaving comments on this subject. If you are interested in seeing what the general public are saying and/or wish to leave a comment go to:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/religion/MT/2008/01/where_is_god_today_in_your_lif.html

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News Item1/7/08 5:54 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Query wrote:
What does "terv" mean?
I think it's supposed to be "terve", Finnish for something like "cheers".
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News Item1/7/08 3:13 PM
Query  Find all comments by Query
What does "terv" mean?

davey wrote:
Can´t understand him being a christian with the death of God. If he taught the bible and Jesus at home, certainly, why couldn´t he see Jesus´s God? Terv davey
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News Item1/7/08 2:35 PM
terry evans | miramar beach fl  Contact via emailFind all comments by terry evans
Jim Lincoln wrote:
“God is dead, signed Nietzsche,” and somebody wrote under it “Nietzsche is dead, signed God.”[/URL]
Jim, really, in love I ask
How do you read this TRASH
This is speaking evil in the sight of GOD.
“God is dead, signed Nietzsche
“Nietzsche is dead, signed God
(even said in humor is pushing it)
But you attach a link for info.
So its meant to instuct?
A lady does not have to become a whore
to understand Gods Word, that its wrong
Please don't post anything on how to
witness to homosexuals.

Maybe, do you not see, thats my motive
No attack, instuction maybe.

How to Have Victory Over Sin

Don't know where it goes, but I
I pray its the Bible

terry

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News Item1/7/08 2:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
[URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/practical-christianity/PC1W0502.pdf]]]“God is dead, signed Nietzsche,” and somebody wrote under it “Nietzsche is dead, signed God.”[/URL]

[URL=http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L131.pdf]]]How to Have Victory Over Sin[/URL]

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