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FRONT PAGE  |  10/27/2021
SATURDAY, AUG 25, 2007  |  19 comments
Black Believers Debate Prosperity Gospel
The “prosperity gospel,” as critics call it, is growing highly prominent megachurches and has blacks divided on the controversial message.

While the nation's largest African American religious organization – the 7.5 million-member National Baptist Convention – has clearly denounced the prosperity gospel especially with many black communities suffering in poverty, tens of thousands of black Christians flock to services every week to hear the message of wealth and abundance.

"God gives us power to get wealth. Does that sound like he wants you to be on welfare? That's in the Bible!" the Rev. Frederick K.C. Price, pastor of Crenshaw Christian Center in Los Angeles, told Religion & Ethics Newsweekly. Current membership at Crenshaw is reported to be over 18,000. ...


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News Item9/2/07 12:47 AM
A Pentecostal | Assembly of God  Find all comments by A Pentecostal
Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron were recently on Open Line. People like Ray who have an open door in the Pentecostal community are making a big difference in opening people's eye's to the false pretenses of the Prosperity Gospel. Meanwhile as long as Prosperity churches are one of few churches developing a multi-ethnic community of believers, I am afraid that this will not fade out as quickly as we would like. This is a form of liberation theology which totally distorts the Gospel message. Generally the Prosperity teachers add this to the Gospel message, rather than replacing it all together with the social economic theory of Liberation theology.

To listen to Kirk Cameron & Ray Comfort:

http://www.mbn.org/GenMoody/default.asp?sectionID=78B10093A89A478AA0CFF8B71A41D7D8

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News Item9/1/07 6:41 PM
mike of delaware  Find all comments by mike of delaware
the prosperity message draws crowds and increases income. but how would this message work in poor areas of the world ? like Sudan , Ethiopia , and poor towns in Asia ???
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News Item9/1/07 4:03 AM
Eitan | New York  Find all comments by Eitan
Powerful Delusion!!!!!!

2 Timothy 2;15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
1 Timothy Chapter 4;1
1 Timothy ch pt 4;16
1 TI ch pt 6;6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.

7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

2 Timothy ch pt 4;3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

To bad those under such a terrible spell know nothing of these comments. Mercy Lord.

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News Item8/29/07 1:26 AM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
1 Corinthians 4:7-14 For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it? Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you. For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men. We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised. Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day. I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.

2 Corinthians 8:13-15

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News Item8/29/07 1:09 AM
Fellow Saint  Find all comments by Fellow Saint
Yes, we hear much about prosperity. How about sanctification by faith? It's almost a foreign idea these days, yet....Acts 26:18, 1 Thess. 4, 1 Thess 5:23...etc., just to name a few. A lot are after physical and temporal blessings instead of eternal and spiritual blessings in their life.
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News Item8/29/07 1:05 AM
KK | USA ---- Veritas Vincit !!!  Find all comments by KK
Hey RD

GOD'S WORD HAS *WARNED* us THAT IN THE LAST DAYS men will be lovers of "self" and will gather to themselves teachers who satisfy their itching ears...

We're plagued with a Famine For **THE HEARING** OF GOD'S WORD, from the Pulpit to the pew and men PERCEIVE it NOT !!!

THE TRUE GOSPEL MESSAGE HAS NEVER been one of wholehearted focus on $$$, material wealth or earthly riches.

MAYBE Matthew 6:33 - 1st THINGS 1st ???

LIVING EPISTLES ???

HOLINESS ???

UPRIGHTNESS AND RIGHT STANDING WITH GOD ???

THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORD ???

Could men have been duped by a spiritually dark and wicked lie of the Devil through the CoNtOrTiOn of SCRIPURE ??? - Satans forte !!!

COULD IT BE many have become puppets of darkness HAVING FORGOTTEN THERE IS *an adversary* TO SHUN AND A GOD ***TO KNOW PERSONALLY WITH WORSHIPFUL FEAR*** ???

COULD IT BE that men have been lured away from THE TRUTH into an overtly disadventageous belief that promotes a false joy in the exalting of "self" under the guise of PRAISING GOD ???

WHAT HAPPENED TO DIEING TO "self" AND LIVING A LIFE EVER MINDFUL, ***SEEKING TO COME UP HIGHER*** IN THE WAY OF TRUTH --- TEACHING LINE UPON LINE *WARNINGS* AND ALL, etc... ???

WHAT OF THE COST - JESUS' AND our's ???

Hmmm

Veritas Vincit !!!

KK

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News Item8/28/07 9:48 AM
RD | Tulsa, OK  Find all comments by RD
To all commentors.......yes, I agree with you all. The question is..."where do we go from here?". Can this false gospel be stopped? Is it going to take over completely the local body? What's the answer? The local church should be about restoring hurting people and directing them to Christ. But how can you do that if they are being taught is "God wants you rich", when the truth is Christ wants a personal relationship with you to change you mind, body and spirit. He wants to teach you how to fish - not to stand on the corner and beg for fish!
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News Item8/28/07 12:41 AM
KK | USA ---- Veritas Vincit !!!  Find all comments by KK
Abigail

I read your post on the other tread "To which confession of faith do you subscribe?"

I must have been working on my post to "coora from Australia" as you posted --- I am very slow when it comes to typing and such...

I LOVE YOU AND APPRECIATE YOUR KIND ENCOUGAGEMENT !!!

With Love *IN* Christ, KK

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News Item8/27/07 11:23 PM
Abigail | Oregon  Find all comments by Abigail
RD from Tulsa, and KK

"The false prosperity gospel had infected the whole church."

Amen to your Posts!!

Jesus Christ promised that God would provide our needs—not our "greeds". In this capitalistic nation, many "Christians"--like the world--can never have enough. "Bigger and better" is their purpose of life on earth and they their prosperity is a gift from God—while the mortgage their souls to attain things that will be in the garbage heap tomorrow. It is called "covetousness"--which Scripture calls idolatry.

In the love of Jesus Christ our Lord
Abigail

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News Item8/27/07 7:36 PM
Fellow Saint  Find all comments by Fellow Saint
Mr. Price is correct in quoting the Bible that God is the one who "giveth thee power to get wealth."(Deut. 8:18) God will see his children through trials and bless them and bring them out safely. Does this mean having multiple houses and airplanes and 1,000-dollar suits? Not necessarily.
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News Item8/27/07 4:41 PM
KK | USA ---- Veritas Vincit !!!  Find all comments by KK
RD from Tulsa, OK

This false "prosperity gospel" has infected the whole Church !!!

IT IS A lie FROM THE PIT OF HELL !!!

With Love *IN* Christ, KK

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News Item8/27/07 2:58 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"If there was ever a lie being perpetuated in the black church and in the black community it's the "health, wealth and prosperity gospel".

And another lie is that there is such a thing as a black church.

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News Item8/27/07 2:10 PM
RD | Tulsa, OK  Find all comments by RD
The "prosperity gospel" is just a modern day form of "rape", hiding under the guise of "christian doctrine". If there was ever a lie being perpetuated in the black church and in the black community it's the "health, wealth and prosperity gospel". People who attend these churches, specifically African American people need to ask the question..."how is it that the pulpit keeps getting richer, while the pew is getting poorer"? People, when is the light going to come on -- look at Jesus' example..."was he materially rich?"...NO, but he was very rich in spirit. That's where our wealth should be, "spiritual wealth". No proverty can exist there!
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News Item8/25/07 7:59 PM
Eutychus  Find all comments by Eutychus
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 1 Timothy 6:5
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News Item8/25/07 7:13 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"Black Believers Debate Prosperity Gospel"

Is there significance to a believer's skin color? I wonder how much it counts to God?

Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

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News Item8/25/07 4:38 PM
KK | USA ---- Veritas Vincit !!!  Find all comments by KK
We as GOD'S people must endeavor to set our Hearts ON THIS ONE TRUTH -- GOD CREATED us EQUAL -- We Are Family *IN* Christ ***AS GOD'S CHILDREN*** !!!

It's not a Black man/White man issue !!! -- It's a FAMILY ISSUE !!!

That being said --- what I feel about The Family of Believers Debating All of These Prosperity Gospel Messages/Messengers is this --

-- It's good that this issue is receiving some attention it deserves !!!

GOD IS A REWARDER OF those who DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM !!!

LET us DILAGENTLY SEEK HIM -- WITH our Hearts SET UPON ***THE FIRM FOUNDATION*** OF HIS PRINCIPLED TRUTH !!! -- AND BEING ***SOLD OUT TO HIS KINGDOM RULE*** we WILL FIND COMFORT IN WHATEVER STATE we FIND ourselves !!!

"Prosperity" messengers have an *ulterior motive*/*hidden agenda*
and Itching ears just love to hear how their going to be rich.

If you watch the way some work the crowd into a frenzied emotional delirium - creating a *Burning Desire* for $$$ and things -- nothing more than a Hellish doctrinal *ERROR* that men have found to be a *surefire tool* to fill their COFFERS !!! --- This bEnT creates an atmosphere of Heightened Fellings for riches and the things of this world and will set *MANY* Hearts *astray* !!!

TAKE HEED AND BEWARE !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

*IN* Christ, KK

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News Item8/25/07 4:07 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Charlatanism know no color boundaries.

"Nullifying the Gospel's Saving Power"

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonsspeaker&sermonID=1050512213

and,

"The Wicked Often Prosper"

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=11603145431

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News Item8/25/07 3:54 PM
John Dynes | UK&IRELAND now?  Contact via emailFind all comments by John Dynes
If Judas was alive, he would be a prosperity preacher.
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News Item8/25/07 3:49 PM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Contact via emailFind all comments by Scott McMahan
Encouraging to read this, since the prosperity gospel preys upon the poor. I am encouraged that black leaders are speaking up against it. I hope more follow suit -- and maybe leaders of other colors, too! The P.G. is designed to prey upon the poor's hopes for a better life with a get-rich-quick, lottery mentality that is the opposite of Christianity. I still have nauseating memories of Leroy Thompson telling a huge gathering to pull a slot machine lever and say "money cometh to me now!" over and over. Sick!
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