WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's father accused the news media of "personal animosity" toward his son and said he found the criticism so unrelenting he sometimes talked back to his television set.
"It's one thing to have an adversarial ... relationship -- hard-hitting journalism -- it's another when the journalists' rhetoric goes beyond skepticism and goes over the line into overt, unrelenting hostility and personal animosity," former President George Bush said.
The elder Bush, the 41st U.S. president, had a relatively collegial relationship with the press but things turned sour during his losing 1992 re-election campaign. He got so fed up with media coverage that supporters at the time circulated hats with the slogan "Annoy the Media -- Re-Elect Bush."...
GG: Symbolic... I see. I have had trouble recently teaching my 9th grade SE students the difference between a city, state, nation, country, and continent... It is amazing how work can carry over into the rest of your life.
It is interesting how you see ancient Rome as a city and a Nation, but didn't make mention of the New ROME-an city/nation. Wouldn't current religious Rome be a better example thatn DC or NY?
Thinking back, some nations are symbolized by their capital city. Ancient Rome was both city and nation. These days, it is hard to think of a city with that much power. Unless its Washington DC, New York, or Hollywood.
One more thing I ran across, concerning a past post.
You stated on 1/29/07
"Bro William...for all you know the Great Whore is the USA...or your great-great-aunt Matilda from Boise"
While reading through Revelation again, I remembered that the great Whore is a city. So, no, it certainly can't be the US or my apparent long lost aunt. Of course, you will have to believe the Bible to believe this post.
Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
I am quite amazed at the shining patriotism of some of you. Perhaps, you should go and see if you can find a better nation than this one. You might try North Korea, China, Iran, or Venezuela; see if they will put up with your exercising your "freedom of speech" in such open and blatant criticism of the dictators of those governments, as you have done with our President.
Freedom of Speech is both a liberty and a privilege in this country, but it has also been one of the greatest freedoms abused and misused. Some of you have greatly evidenced that fact.
By many, (not speaking of any of you) it has even been corrupted to permit sexual perversion and exploitation, such as pornography in magazines, movies, nude dancing, etc.
Freedom of Speech??? Rather freedom to sin!!!
One of the saddest things about these Sermon Audio Forums is that they give many wicked people a platform to spew out their filth and contempt of that which is good, lawful, and right.
"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh." Luke 6:45
Whatever Good can come of politics it is never true, or honest, rarely is it just, never pure, and certainly not lovely, maybe once in awhile something of good report; but on the whole very little virtue, and far to much praise.
I find politics to be a necessary evil to be avoided whenever possible. For us the quest is not a candidate but:
whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Good thing it ain't up to me to know! Thank God that He provided a perfect Book! Thank God He Knows! And although ole USA isn't the Whore, I will grant you I believe she (USA) is in perfect league with that harlot (rcc).
Honestly... what was it MBL used to say, a hit dog always yells? Howl away, howl away. Don't practice for Mt. 13:50 just yet though GG, if your still breathing there is still a chance for you to be saved! Repent ye and believe the GOSPEL!!!
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Bro William...for all you know the Great Whore is the USA...or your great-great-aunt Matilda from Boise...the rest of your nonsense is simpy anti-catholic hog-wash. So go find a hog and wash it thoroughly.
Even if that defamatory URL is true, how is it relevant? Or is it posted in the hope that at least some mud will stick and another public figure can be dragged down by personal attacks? Look, I'm not crazy about the Bushes either, but let's keep debate about them at the policy level.
Andrew Jackson's wife died of a heart attack shortly after reading allegations that her marriage to Jackson was invalid (and she was therefore an adulteress). This was during Jackson's campaign vs. JQ Adams.
As always, my comment to you is to come out of that Great Whore and be saved.
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
That is, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Not in the pope (a sinful man), not in Mary (a sinful woman), not in baptism, not in sacraments, not in WORKS.
Furthermore, I rarely debate topics with the unsaved, yet I struggle passing up Prov. 26:5 at times.
First, Moses and the Isrealites were commanded By God directly, to come out of Egypt. Where does God specifically tell us to come out of America in the Bible? Furthermore, they had been promised the Promised Land by God, where are we to go? My promise is a heavenly place, not a physical. To further that, where could the saved go to practice under a perfect ruler? There are not any.
You stated, "Clearly God led Moses and the Hebrew children out of Egypt". I believe this to be true. But as an unsaved Catholic you should be more worried about God leading you out of the Great Whore than arguing about leaving this gov't behind.
If God intended us to be free to do his will...then what shall we say of that Govt who would bind our hands, gag our mouths, and close our minds to the service of our Creator. Give to God those things which are God's...like our minds, our bodies, our hearts, and our children...but what if Caesar demands that same tithe...shall we leave Caesar unchastised? "All that it takes for evil to triumph...is for good men to do nothing!".
So if we follow St Paul's admonition, then Moses should have had the Israelites stay in Egypt for another 400 years? But, clearly God lead Moses to lead the people away from their current Govt, in order to follow his will for them, which was freedom.
Let us not move from the current subject. I am well aware of how the Lord allows someone to twist the Scripture to break their neck. Beyond that, contrary to my post of Scripture, which leads many to believe I am a blind patriot, I am anything but. I do my best to accomplish what the Scriptures teaches in the given passages in regards to the government.
Since you stated that we are not to be, "blind, irrational dufus when confronted by a tyranical government official", what do you suggest we do? And please, I am asking for a scriptural answer, not one of the, "i'll vote for one of them baby-killing, God-denying, take your guns, limp-wristed dems". In all truth, the republicans and democrats are so close to one-another in so many points it is frightening. But, I am not here to talk politics, I could care less. Let us speak of the Bible.
I gave two very clear passages, if you want to refute them, please, by all means do so. But if it is just opinion vs. opinion then I am not interested. And, I too mean this with all do respect.
With all due respect Bro. Williams, Scripture can be (and has been) quoted to support everything from slavery to genocide. The Jews used Scripture to kill Christ. God never intended for man to be a blind, irrational dufus when confronted by a tyranical government official. It is as wrong to use Scripture as an excuse for tolerating a domestic evil as it is to use it to condone pacifism in the face of a foreign evil.
Not to say that I believe Bush is infallible, for I do not. Nor to say that I like him, I've never met him. But Scripture overrides my useless opinion as well as everyone else's.
1 Timothy 2:1-4 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Peter 2:22-25 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
1 Peter 2:13-21 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king. Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully. For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God. For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
I've noted the usual criticism's and conceded several points to those dogmatically convinced Bush is the biggest buffoon to ever reside on Pennsylvania Avenue. However, given the bar is set low, do you honestly believe John Kerry or Al Gore would have done much better jobs...and it's a given the media would go easier on either of these two "social calvinists".