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Choice News SUNDAY, NOV 5, 2006  |  89 comments
Rev. Ted Haggard Quits Church After Probe Cites 'Sexually Immoral Conduct'


Rev. Ted Haggard
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. ‚ÄĒ The Rev. Ted Haggard agreed to resign as leader of the New Life Church Saturday after its independent investigative board recommended removal, saying he was guilty "of sexually immoral conduct."

"We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard," a statement from the church said. "Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct."

A man describing himself as an escort told news media this week that Haggard, who also has resigned as president of the influential National Asssociation of Evangelicals, had been paying him for sex for three years. ...


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News Item11/15/06 9:40 PM
Rudi | Australia  Find all comments by Rudi
Yes Michael,I agree you put it right because we do have a free will we are allways capable of commiting sin but the Lord Jesus Christ has made provision for us not to!
If we avail ourselves of His prvision by faith.
So as far as the Lord has revealed to me, both 9/11,freewiller and Dwayne on one side and Byron,Peter and b.a on the other are both right and wrong .
The problem with both is the same just from the oposite end of the spectrum what they have presented below are both man centred gospels !
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News Item11/15/06 7:44 AM
Michael | Endicott, NY  Find all comments by Michael
Rudi,
You touch on an important subject, saved born again people are quite capable of committing sin.

But it will go against our new nature that we recieved at salvation and grieve our hearts. This is quite different from those who habitually practise sin with no remourse and show they have never been changed born again of the Holy Spirit.

With Ted Haggard long before this present matter came up believers should have been able to tell something was hugely amiss with Him because if it has been accurately reported his church doesn't try to convert Roman Catholics and had no problem with members attending Mass. This should have told them right from the start Ted Haggard was seriously off theologically and needed to get right with God on the very basics of salvation as Roman Catholics certainly are not and the Mass is a quite blasphemous idolatrous ritual and any man of God should be seriously grieved over any attending such a thing.

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News Item11/15/06 5:37 AM
Rudi | Auatralia  Find all comments by Rudi
By the way kenny,
it was necessary for me to apologize.
Holyness is a most important issue and I am sadend that my dreadfull error cause the readers (including you) to be distracted from the issue at hand.

Sadly the three have not answered my question !

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News Item11/14/06 1:33 AM
Rudi | Auatralia  Find all comments by Rudi
Thank you for your reply Kenny
God bless you!
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News Item11/13/06 7:43 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
Hi Rudi, Certainly no need for you to apologize! I was just trying to be funny.

Please accept my apology to you-I can see how you thought I was being a smart aleck. Please forgive me. I'll do better.

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News Item11/13/06 7:10 PM
Rudi | Australia  Find all comments by Rudi
Kenny thanks for you correction as the context shows it should have read "ceased" my apology for confusing you and anyone else !
English is my second language and I hope you wont be too hung up by my atrocious spelling mistakes!
But my Question remains " can you honestly say, 9/11 , freewiller and Dwayne that you have ceased from sinning and live perfect lives in the eyes of God !
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News Item11/13/06 5:56 PM
Byron | Texas  Find all comments by Byron
Oh yeah: road signs. Pesky things, those.
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News Item11/13/06 5:51 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Here's an example of such usage: www.lonestarroads.com/i-610b_tx.html

Nice concrete pavement in W. Texas.

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News Item11/13/06 5:41 PM
Byron | Texas  Find all comments by Byron
Perhaps other Texans call it IH-10, but I've heard it called I-10 my whole life (the majority of which I lived 2 miles north of it in the far southeastern corner of Texas).
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News Item11/13/06 4:25 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Funny & scary, Scott. I already try to give semis a wide berth, so I'll remember that next time I drive on I-10 (IH-10 to you Texans).
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News Item11/13/06 4:09 PM
ScottD | Texas  Find all comments by ScottD
Neil,

Meth is also used by long-haul truck drivers for its energizing effects (e.g. not needing to sleep, and feeling 'alert' - though I think this is an illusion not an actual effect).

A busy dominionist and political mover and shaker might just be tempted by the 'sustaining power' of this drug since they would lack the true power of the Spirit. Maybe Ted was tired of feeling haggard??

BTW, I have heard that the 'New Apostolic Reformation' folks (C. Peter Wagner [sp?]) have a building on the same campus as Haggard's mega-apostacy. This will prove to be just the tip of the iceberg of the kinds of fruit one should expect from these organizations.

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News Item11/13/06 11:18 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Speaking of sinning, Haggard's interest in meth needs a little elaboration. Crystal meth is reputed to give a tremendous boost to the sexually promiscuous. If you hear of someone using the stuff, this may be the reason for it.
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News Item11/13/06 10:02 AM
kenny | kenny  Find all comments by kenny
"Seized from sinning"?

What does that mean?

It sounds like an epileptic attack that results from wrong behavior.

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News Item11/13/06 7:18 AM
Rudi | Auatralia  Find all comments by Rudi
Dear Dwayne,9/11 and freewiller,
while I agree with you with mutch you are sying ,where you refer to the word of God I would like to ask you an honest question !
Can you honestly say that you have seized from sinning and live a perfect life ?

I would apreciate an honest answere Please !

your fellow pilgrim

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News Item11/7/06 1:53 PM
Byron | Texas  Find all comments by Byron
Cheer up Peter. I found out in my church history class that the Romans used to accuse the Christians of all sorts of immoralities, which struck me as ever so slightly ironic. History repeats itself, human nature being what it is. The characters, settings, and events are all the same. Only the names have been changed to protect the guilty.

Of course, I have the sneaking suspicion that types such as 9/11 and Freewiller are not actually interested in truth (or Scripture either, for that matter).

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News Item11/7/06 7:35 AM
Peter  Find all comments by Peter
9/11: You said, "A church where the pastor goes to homosexual orgies and snorts coke? And chalks it all up to Calvary?"
That is not the church I attend. Nor would I. Since you speak in ignorance of me, and theological things, I'll assume that it is an embedded trait Please try using your mighty freewill to change it.
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News Item11/7/06 2:38 AM
Chris M | Australia  Find all comments by Chris M
Oops, she of course.... Thanks Byron!
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News Item11/6/06 11:32 PM
Byron | Texas  Find all comments by Byron
Numbers 22:25 (NASB)

25 When the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, she pressed herself to the wall and pressed Balaam's foot against the wall, so he struck her again.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2022%20:25;&version=49;

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News Item11/6/06 11:20 PM
Chris M | Australia  Find all comments by Chris M
Freewiller, please don't insult Balaams Ass! He is one of my bible heros!

He may even be recycled as a white horse one day!

I also enjoyed the comment "You would be welcome in my church anytime.."

As distinct from the Lords church of course....

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News Item11/6/06 11:04 PM
Byron | Texas  Find all comments by Byron
Ted Haggard's fall from grace is sobering evidence that the judgment of God is a present-day reality and continuing certainty, bringing the following Scriptures to mind:

1 Peter 4:16-18 (New American Standard Bible)

16 but if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God in this name.

17 For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?

18 AND IF IT IS WITH DIFFICULTY THAT THE RIGHTEOUS IS SAVED, WHAT WILL BECOME OF THE GODLESS MAN AND THE SINNER?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Peter%204:16-18;&version=49;

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