"Justification is not something that occurs in man, nor is it a process. It refers to the legal, judicial and forensic declaration of God. â€śIt is to declare forensically that the demands of the law as a condition of life are fully satisfied with regard to a person, Acts 13:39; Rom. 5:1, 9; 8:30-33; I Cor. 6:11; Gal. 2:16; 3:11.â€ť2 The ground of justification is Christâ€™s sacrificial death and perfect obedience to the law (i.e., â€śthe righteousness of God,â€ť Rom. 3:21). When a man by faith lays hold of Jesus Christ and His merits, God imputes that personâ€™s guilt for sins past, present and future upon Christ on the cross. God also imputes Christâ€™s perfect righteousness to that sinner. The Father then declares that man righteous or just in the heavenly court. Because Christ has removed the guilt of that manâ€™s sins past, present, and future legally before God, it is as though that man never committed sin. He is white as snow (Isa. 1:18). His record is perfect. Judicially, he is just as righteous and perfect as Jesus Christ. Since Christâ€™s perfect obedience is imputed to him, he has eternal life because Christ merited it for him." (B.Schwertley)
Scott- We can still pass out bibles at school. The gideons are doing it. I know here in Maumee Ohio You cannot require that students take them, and you cannot be set up in a place that students must pass, but you can, and they do, set up in a place where students can voluntarily pick up a bible.
(the ones they have been passing out are orange now, not red)
I clicked the little maginifying glass next to your name and viewed your past posts. It is pretty clear that you supported Senator Obama, unless someone else posted under your name, which is entirely possible. Careful calling Banned a liar.
I do appreciate your use of the 'word' JESUITICAL earlier on this thread. It gave me a good laugh.
ENGINEER wrote: and re: thinking "the sinfulness of a woman passed to her offspring" see Ps. 51:5 "51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. " Gen 3:16 " in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children" is read by many as the curse being, effectively, you will sorrow to have kids just as rotten as you are !
Those verses do not seem speak to the transfer of fallen nature from mother to child. I suppose you could make a reasonable case with the Psalm 51 verse, but you are stretching a bit on Gen 3:16.
I am not going to argue my point (sin passed down from the father) because I am still open on this, and refuse to be dogmatic on something I am not convinced of. It does seem logical though.
Engineer - what type of engineer are you? I am a mechanical engineer working in automotive tooling (die cast).
and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Does this verse not imply human flesh... that He was as we are? Yet without sin of course.
Not making an argument her, just wondering how this text fits in with what is being debated. mainly the nature of Jesus