see how a christian was blessed reading whitefield-excellent1 http://shepherdtheflock.com/2007/09/30/church-history-spotlight-george-whitefield-part-1/
well we seem to be in agreement so bless you brother. God's instruments like Whitefield didn't watch the TV then head out with a little prayer to post a few tracts, but were consistant holy men of God (though nothing in their own sight)-all around them could testify to their personal godliness. We need such men today in our pulpits and as evangelists-instruments so prepared of God contrite and trembling at His word
'I am also deepened in my conviction, that if we are to be instruments in such a work, we must be purified from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit. Oh, cry for personal holiness, constant nearness to God, by the blood of the Lamb. Bask in his beams â€” lie back in the arms of love â€” be filled with his Spirit â€” or all success in the ministry will only be to your own everlasting confusion... How much more useful might we be, if we were only more free from pride, self conceit, personal vanity, or some secret sin that our heart knows. Oh! hateful sins, that destroy our peace and ruin souls.' McCheyne
John see http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/easyb elievism.html Anderson doesn't believe in a convicted repenting broken heart prior to calling upon the Lord to be saved in contrast to biblical preaching http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=6280715749 Repent and Believe - by Paul Washer.
Yes I would agree it is gospel preaching that is paramount, tracting was an example that even sincere evangelical activity is not the simple answer for the Lord even in areas of sound street preaching in the uk is not blessing such- so we must ask why? Spurgeon rightly encouraged tracting/door to door/street evangelism and yes I agree that there is a need to evangelise exactly as you say 'the whole country would soon know the issue, as it was once in history. This is my main concern'
Yet there must be something more than evangelical activity-the above sermon by Paul Washer addresses the lack of a deep work of genuine repentance and trembling before the thrice Holy God-this accompanied Whitefield's preaching. Washer gives example of what a christian should be PRIOR to any sincere activity--and also what true evangelism actually is. He is on the mark Anderson is deceived IF Washer is right
We have a non calvinist church on sermonaudio with the following:
Why Tracts are Worthless http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=121808101222 'We are an old-fashioned, independent, fundamental, King James Bible only, separated Baptist church and not ashamed to say so.'
He believes 99% of tracts are worthless (me thinks he reads the wrong tracts ) and never seen a conversion from 15,000 tracts.
A calvinist with 48,000 gospel tracts in one year?
Am I against tracting 100% no! Hudson Taylor was converted through his mother being compelled by the Holy Spirit to pray for her son...meanwhile he picked up a tarct and the Holy Spirit opened His eyes!
Maybe today we have little prayer and little true preaching, yet read some street preachers and they will say that despite faithful preaching there are few conversions. Why?
If George Whitefield was alive today would there be more conversions even when the Spirit of God is withdrawn. What must happen first for there to be a revival? Simply send out 48,000 tracts as our arminian friends would have us believe? What ya think?
"95% of all Calvinists I know are waiting for the 'elect' to walk in their church and get converted. And that is not right!" John Uk
J How many calvinists do you actually know so I can appreciate your statistics and math? Unless the elect are indeed getting converted in 9.5 OUT OF 10 of these CALVINIST CHURCHES THEN how do such churches exist/survive/increase in numbers-OR ARE THEY NOT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES AT ALL?
You pose an interesting quetion: Is it more frequent that the elect are converted in church under the ministry of God's word or via street preaching and tract distribution. I Know faithful street preachers who have distributed 10,000 tracts and seen no conversions and have a gospel service where the elect walk in and are converted.
Anyway maybe you exaggerate? Can you name some of these 95%-especially particular churches as examples or are you refering to one church you know where 5% differ and then wouldn't that one be a hyper calvinist church? The math gets more difficult the fewer calvinists you know-especillay under the number 10
If we use your anecdotal study as facts then it suggests a wider conclusion: calvinism is dead-unless of course it is the 5%? Possibly your model can be substantiated by questioning the calvinist churhes here on SA?