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John UK wrote:
do you imagine that is what I am saying?
Forgive me if I read you wrong John.
It was just that Mike's premise was that "worthy" or Unworthy" did not play any part in the great scheme of things. Whilst I believe that NONE of us are ever worthy of Christ's sacrifice or indeed God's election.
Therefore the term "unworthy" I see as very relevant to our wretched estate here on earth as Paul points to.

You came in and seemed to follow the line of mike with - "It's a bit like saying "I do not deserve God's grace."
Which seemed to contribute to Mike's position and disagree with mine.

I wondered if Mike's premise came from the Arminian theory of man having a part to play, viz works based, or man's capacity of "free-will" being able to "faith" and/or loss of salvation, thus "cooperate" with the Spirit or not as the case may be. Thus some control vested within the mortal. This would suggest some measure of "worthyness."

I do apologise if I read you and Mike wrong.

Thankyou Lurker.


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John UK wrote:
It's a bit like saying "I do not deserve God's grace."
John
So what your saying is that you do "deserve" God's grace?

Does this mean Jesus was just doing you a favour on the cross to which you were entitled to?

Does this mean that God "owed" you salvation?

If you are "worthy" [as opposed to unworthy] whether now or pre-conversion does this mean you did not need Christ crucified or His work?


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The only Word of God is based upon the received text. Any version based upon "new" and "better" manuscripts is a lie. Any version which is more interested in dynamic equivilence than being a translation of "every word from the mouth of God" is a lie.

As for the problem with the English, the AV has been updated, I believe four times since 1611. Personally, I had absolutely no problem reading and understanding the AV as a 21 year old, newly converted, former Roman Catholic over 27 years ago. The problem is with the heart of evil men, not primarily with the more formal language of the AV.

Frankly, if you are using any Bible based upon manuscripts not fully based upon the received text, you are not holding God's Word. It is a corruption.




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