"Why is obstructed labor such a common complication during human childbirth?"
Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."
ladybug wrote: doctrines of grace originate with God
God works in His servants. Do not doubt God's capacity to create among His creatures.
Quote; "John Calvin, often regarded as "the systematizer of the Reformation," was a second generation Protestant Reformer of the sixteenth century who brought together biblical doctrine systematically, in a way that no other Reformer before him had done. At the same time, he was not an ivory tower scholar but a pastor who thought and wrote his theological works always with an eye to the edification of the Christian church. Although his views have not always been popular and have at times been grossly misrepresented, his system of theology has had a very wide influence down to the present time, as indicated by the fact that all Reformed and Presbyterian churches look back to him as the founder of their biblical - theological doctrinal position. Scripture The formal principle and source of Calvin's theological system is embodied in the Latin phrase sola Scriptura (Scripture only). In a strict sense Calvin was primarily a biblical theologian" (W.S.Reid) (Elwell Theol Dic))
Eph 1:11 the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:"
John Yurich USA wrote: It does not change the facts that the secular aspect of Christmas is pagan while the religious aspect(the Birth of Jesus) is not pagan.
John Y I don't think Augustine's point emanates from a pagan ideology. Just as 'solstice' is not pagan it is just seasonal. Quote; "Winter solstice (or hibernal solstice) is an astronomical phenomenon marking the shortest day and the longest night of the year. In the Northern Hemisphere this is the December solstice and in the Southern Hemisphere this is the June solstice."
Nobody knows the actual date of Christ's birth even back in the 2nd century apparently. But the various dates put forward were 'worked out' in various ways to arrive at a symbolic meaning, as Augustine's sermon suggests.
The modern commercialism of Christmas is just that - a modern phenomenon. Poor people in previous centuries could not celebrate in these ways and did not. Pre 1950's in the UK the celebration was by middle/upper class families. Indeed in Scotland it did not become a holiday until 1958. ----------
BTW The term 'Christmas' did not come into use until the year 1038 - So the term does not relate to its inception.
"In other writing of this time, May 20, April 18 or 19, March 25, January 2, November 17, and November 20 are all suggested. Various factors contributed to the selection of December 25 as a date of celebration: it was the date of the winter solstice on the Roman calendar; it was about nine months after March 25, the date of the vernal equinox and a date linked to the conception of Jesus; and it was the date of a Roman pagan festival in honor of the Sun god Sol Invictus.
December 25 was the date of the winter solstice on the Roman calendar. Jesus chose to be born on the shortest day of the year for symbolic reasons, according to an early sermon by Augustine: "Hence it is that He was born on the day which is the shortest in our earthly reckoning and from which subsequent days begin to increase in length. He, therefore, who bent low and lifted us up chose the shortest day, yet the one whence light begins to increase."" (Wiki)
"Despite these various contributing strains, Calvinism is remarkably consistent and defined. As Valentijn Hepp writes, "Calvinism is the broadest and deepest Christianity; or, if you will, it is the purest Christianity; or, as I should prefer to qualify it, it is the most consistent and likewise the most harmonious Christianity."'
Calvin's synthesis is far more remarkable than that; he certainly was no midget standing on Augustine's giant shoulders. Calvin's presentation of the plan of salvation, choice of materials, and sense of the interconnectedness of biblical doctrine are unique. He was a genius in organization and systematization. His indebtedness to his predecessors does not detract from his originality, which is clearly evident in his doctrine of divine Sonship; his emphasis on the humanity of the Redeemer and His threefold mediatorial office as Prophet, Priest, and King; his explanation of the inward witness of the Holy Spirit; his development of Presbyterian church polity; and his exposition of how worship should be based on the Second Commandment, which the Puritans would later develop as the regulative principle of worship." (Joel Beeke) https://www.monergism.com/marrow-calvinism
Praise God for His Calvinist doctrine. Puritans, Covenanters, WCF and individuals such as Ryle, Whitefield and many more serious Christians preached and lived by Calvinist doctrine because it is Biblical.
C.H.Spurgeon stated in sermon that Calvinism *IS* the Gospel. And he is absolutely right. It is the voice of Scripture.
It is a great pity that many do not perceive the truth in Calvinism - But then many cannot perceive truth full stop.
Calvinism is the basis for the teachings of Christ and the Apostles - That is where it comes from. Paul demonstrates Calvinism as the very basis of all his doctrine. Calvinism is the litmus test of Bible truth in preaching. Calvinism worships God and is the basis of His doctrines.
Calvinism never claims to save - But the saved teach Calvinist doctrine. Calvinism does not claim to be faith - But those who live by faith teach Calvinist doctrines as their interpretation of Scripture - Thus the light the truth and the way.
Calvinism translates the Bible for the elect. And by this means they connect with God's truth and witness down through the centuries and continue thus to contend for the faith.
"mudslinging"??? What I have been doing is debate, look at my posts. It is YOU that is describing my Calvinist position as "idolatrous"
As for Providing proof of "ordained" Calvinism ??? What on earth are you talking about?
John Calvin is a respected theologian in the Reformed Church. God works in His servants to teach and to preach as I have already shown you from Scripture.
The 16th century Reformation was "ordained" by God to remove HIS Church from the Roman false witness. That is historic fact.
Idolatry - The worship of dead people and parts of dead peoples bodies - Was and IS the Roman idolatrous heretical product. This is what SteveR is trying very hard to validate as "Christian."??
The Lord took the Protestant Church HIS (then) 'evangelical' people out of that Vatican antichrist perversion and planted the Reformed (Calvinist) Church to bring people back to Scripture and sound doctrines. This is the providence of God working in mankind's history.
Biblical sound doctrine is still available in HIS Elect today. Calvinism teaches that Bible Bible Bible. The Roman club and their friends eg Arminian free willers, Liberals, etc fight against sound doctrines.
SteveR wrote: St Augustine is considered the principal theological creator of the Latin-Catholic system.
SteveR. Carry on supporting the papal antichrist in your own way if you want.
But notice (if you can) that by trying to associate Calvinism with the Idolatrous heretical Roman pseudo system - you are actually demonstrating your lack of awareness in the detail of Bible doctrines.
Remember; WCF 25/6. "There is no other Head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ:[a] nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God.[b]" a. Eph 1:22; Col 1:18. â€¢ b. Mat 23:8-10; 2 Thes 2:3-4, 8-9; Rev 13:6.
Ah look Ladybug's knight in shining armour. As per your previous shining complaint, in this one also you really need to try to follow the debate a little more perceptively.
Lurker Hi Freddie. Long time no talk! I see you are still out there somewhere. You posted; "Indeed God ordained the Reformation. But to say God ordained Calvinism is to say God ordained a fallible system of theology."
"Matt 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father."
Now c'mon Lurker if a sparrow can get into the act surely a Good Biblical Calvinist can!!! Here is a wee bit good Biblical Calvinism for you.... 1. God is omnipotent. 2. God is omniscient. 3 Which qualifies God's Sovereignty in a more extensive Biblical reality than those whose image of God is of a lesser god!
=========== Ladybug said; "that explains why Seaton has jumped on a couple of my responses lately."
1. My name is not Seaton and never has been!!
2. The reason why I 'debated' with you is that is one of the reasons for posting here.
3. Calvinism is certainly a means which God has used for HIS purpose in the church. Still does. Praise be to God.
ladybug wrote: Some wear the label 'calvinist' as though it were a badge of honor. He is also accredited with the doctrines of grace. God the Spirit is the author of these doctrines, not Calvin. Some elevate him to 'pope' status ......
Matt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."
Calvinism is like the Bible - Many who claim to comprehend Calvinism, in fact do not! Just as many who claim to know the Bible do not. As God ordained the Reformation to separate the Church from the false witness, so He ordained Calvinism to separate His sheep from the many other flocks.
The reason why GOD ordained Calvinism is to identify the detail of truth which separates the Christians from the many church goers.
2. Is the theological doctrinal system called Calvinism - based upon human characteristics of "arrogant jerks"
1. Yes of course the sinner can sometimes be described as an arrogant jerk. The mortal does not need a system of theology or doctrine to bring that out in anybody.
BTW Jerk means (Dictionary) = "Slang. a contemptibly naive, fatuous, foolish, or inconsequential person."
2. The Theological system and doctrine of Calvinism is entirely Biblical and is well exemplified by the acronym TULIP - The Doctrines of Grace. Those who fully understand Calvinism perceive by grace that it is Biblical. Those who cannot understand Calvinism such as Roman Catholics, Liberals and Arminians construct alternative kinds of doctrine which invariably includes human action of one sort or another for salvation.
Biblical Calvinism knows a totally sovereign God and a Totally depraved human being. This is Biblical doctrine perceived by the Christian.
So "Are Calvinists Arrogant Jerks?" NO! They are Bible believing Christians, by the grace of God.
ladybug wrote: There are NO infallible men, including Calvin. There is much wrong with what he did and taught, so upholding him as some sort of saint is not a good idea. Calvin isn't God now is he?
"1Cor 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues."
NB: "God hath set"
God has used people in history to further His purpose and build His Church. So do not cut God out of the equation or church building of history. All people are sinners and prior to God's conversion of them they are living within His wrath (Eph 2:3) because of what they are. But when He decides they will serve His purpose then the result and the works of them are wrought of God. Try not to dismiss this.
"John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."
"Two of Rome's chief weapons to-day are also 'education' and 'charity' in the hands of her monastic and conventual institutions; but time forbids my more than glancing at this part of my subject. I can only suggest that it may well not be considered bigotry on our part if we question Rome's motives in pushing the people's education today wherever such education would go on, on other lines, without her, when we remember that during the long centuries of her mediaeval supremacy the village school was an institution unknown, and when we look at the fearful ignorance in which every country lies, as witness Spain, that remains under her control, even in this nineteenth century. So, also, as regards her works of benevolence, when we have the founder even of the St.Vincent de Paul Society itself speaking thus: "Our chief object is to keep them steadfast in the Catholic faith, and to propagate it amongst others by means of charities." (Works of Ozonoam, Vol VIII, p.43) So, also, in respect of lesser "operations" in connection with social functions of various kinds. "From one learn all." Of Cardinal Manning his fellow-pervert, Orbey Shipley, has declared that in public and private he was always working to "resubjugate England". http://ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=connor
Jim Lincoln wrote: Iâ€™ll Take Hillary Clinton Over Donald Trump--- "Hillary Clinton Is Despicable, But Trump Is Worse"
Are you still doing the Hillary apologist proclamations Jim.
GOD rejected Hillary. All sane people reject the Democrats. Whose side are you on Jim??
Remember what God says Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil"
1Tim 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;"
SteveR wrote: Not really in this case Historically, it was the Reformers that formed alliances with the Ottoman Empire against the Catholic Hapsburgs.
SteveR. We realise that your aim is to authenticate the false witness and papal antichrist, - To the detriment of true church and biblical doctrine. But what you really need to do is delve into the history of the Roman church and recognise Satan's footprint all over the world. The Vatican and its followers spent generations in other countries, for example South America, and converted them to Romish religious superstitions and absurdities with a view to conquer politically and socially.
NONE of the Vatican's efforts in history can be even vaguely identified with true Christianity. Their "missions" were more to do with human politics and greed, gain and covetousness than any Biblical instructions. This is how Satan and his papal antichrist works.
Attacking western culture in all its worldly forms will only make enemies rather than teach the truth. Children accept what their parents and other adults present as culture and fact. Discrediting the parents to the children will not have the desired affect of Christian preaching.
Santa and commercial Christmas is a powerful tradition and statement in western society. The kids love every part of it! What covetous mortal doesn't. Truth is such a spoil sport!!
When the kids grow up they blend in with the rest of society and learn to accept sodomite behaviour, abortion, transgenderism, atheism, Liberalism, socialism, political correctness, celebrity demigods, movies, belief in TV and media, etc etc..... And you are worried about Santa and other fairy stories??