Oh really wrote:
Knock yourself out, if you want to embarass yourself.

Concerning 1 Cor 2:12, there is a clear distinction between 'Signs of an Apostle' and 'Signs, wonders and etc.' Again, there is nothing conclusive here to that particular argument.

San Jose John wrote:
My sister claims to have a "prayer language" by which she speaks privately to God in a "tongue" that not even she understands. She claims it makes her feel good/blessed. She thinks it's cool. I think it's dangerous. If the words she's praying back to God are actually from a demon, she may be cursing God without even realizing it, thinking she's blessing Him instead. "Feeling good" is no safe valitdation of spiritual activity since most if not all people "feel good" (at least in the short run) when they sin. Sadly she's so enthralled by this "gift" of hers that neither I nor anyone else can convince her otherwise.
So much of what passes for Christianity today is largely a do-it-yourself religion, with little bits of Bible thrown in for seasoning.

Oh really wrote:
What about the rest of his article? Did you bother to read that? If so, why strain at gnats when you're swallowing camels?
If everyone performed miracles, how could the apostle use this as an argument for his apostleship?
And again I ask, why in Heb 2.4 is the reference to historic events if such sign gifts were still in operation when the letter to the Hebrews was written?

The signs of a true apostle were performed among you with utmost patience, with signs and wonders and mighty works. (ESV)

Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds. (KJV)

Paul says Signs of an Apostle were wrought, but does not define them then he also concludes that there were 'signs wonders and mighty deeds' also done with these 'signs of the apostle'

Oh really wrote:
Check this out:
[URL=http://www.metropolitantabernacle.org/Sword-And-Trowel/Sword-and-Trowel-Articles/Proving-that-Charismatic-Gifts-Have-Ceased]]]The sign gifts have ceased[/URL]
Or if you wish to read a lengthy proof of the position, read Warfield's Counterfeit Miracles.
Most historic reformed confessions include something to the effect that they ceased.
Why would Hebrews 2.4 make reference to a historic occurence if the things were still happening?
What were the "signs of an apostle" that Paul appealed to as proof of his apostleship?
etc..
Do you read your Bible with your brain switched off?

Jesus Palafox wrote:
Praying in tongues does not exist anymore you can see that Paul talks about people who speak in tongues are of Satan because they think the spirit is in them while they're at church to gain attention but you don't see them doing that at home. Or Do You?

R .Gr wrote:
End of days in may? What happened to the 1000 year reign? That must be false too.

The proverbs even warn us this way to avoid paths wind down evil ways.

I understand it is all heart and intentions, but I feel like a thing that causes sinning in so many cases makes a good case to remove it in many more cases.

Kudos to the pastor being willing to step out and say such a strong thing.

DavidD1960 wrote:
hey Joe,the point I was bringing up is she was in a false religion to begin with.the catholic church is Not Christian.

TT wrote:
Does anyone have any concept of or love for the truth anymore? Thank God for Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky. willing to stand for the truth and call heresy when they see it.

J.T. wrote:
Yet given Piper's shocking, disgraceful comments about the impeccability and moral glory of the Lord Jesus Christ several months ago,

Eph 2.8 wrote:
Does God's Word need to be verified by man?
Or do we trust God, in Faith, to bring the Truth, the Word and HIS Scripture to His Church?

This is a bible bee, not a secular gathering.