That girl is a child of God and her heavenly father is always with her.

I do the best I can with my boys, but I know they will be tempted, as we all are.

I want the boys to know the joy of the heavens when young people take the spirit of the Lord out with them.

I also like to try to paint a picture of the ripple affect all their actions have, and how truly empty animal like, lustful living is. It really is a wasteland. It’s a pit that will not allow itself to be filled.

These are passions of mine. It seems like a subject you take to heart as well.

I would love to work with young people some day. I feel we can do so much better than we are.

bro Williams correctly, IMO, points out that so many moms are carrying the same baggage and they pass it along.

We Christian men have a lot to offer. So many women and young girls do not understand unconditional love. How it can free them from the worldly pressure.

I guess that's why you address the dad's.

I understand what you're saying.

In the last few months we've read about church closure, cutbacks in benefits to priests who can barely afford to eat on what they now draw, and the RCC selling their interests in hospitals.

In my community two prominent RC high schools have had to merge due to declining enrollment and revenue drop-off. These are big name schools that had tremendous community prestige at one point. Parents just don’t want their kids going there anymore.

In the US, from what I see, they're struggling badly at present.

Finding people that understand it is very hard.

I’ll keep on chasing the love of God, and enjoying other worldly peace in his presence.

You keep right on getting those words in exact order and those numbers right perfect.

Cept we don't have the political OK to do so.

Think of Cambodia during Vietnam war. This is likely to work out as well as that did.

You know this is just a hunch but I don't think the US military likes Hi Altitude fighting. They can't co-ordinate fire support with ground troops, nor can helicopters be brought in for fire support, reinforcements, and evacuation quickly.

I'm no world traveler, but at least in the US nobody really cares what the church in Rome thinks or says.

They have almost no influence in this country.

Then I listen to some of the sermons on this site and I wonder who they're talking about?

Our children. Our 13 year old girls are leered at by 40 year old men as both walk the malls...the girls half naked.

No problem with the money. If he has to sell his house under duress it's not only wrong IMO, but more news we don't need to hear.

Mike, I know what you mean. I would rather be hot or cold myself.

If you are indeed a pastor, you deal with more "want and need" in a week than I deal with in a couple of years, so I'm sorry for my overly dramatic post. I was out of line.

I'm not advocating this guys position. I thought some might find it interesting though.

Some topics I think it's okay to debate back and forth and throw points about to get reaction.

I have very little knowledge in this area personally. It’s just not something I’ve had to think about, and it really is best left to those who have studied it out. I have not.

A gift I find fascinating.

Mike from New York (the happy guy) asked about this gift early in one of the tongues thread but it got buried and nobody replied. Mike asked, as I wonder (why is this the overlooked gift of the spirit?)

I covet earnestly discernment but no luck as of yet.

Anyway this gay gent went on a quest for the love of God. His story is very interesting if you can read it with an open mind.

There are homosexual art type pics which are tough to look at, but I enjoyed this Brothers story.

He's gay and a super loving Christian and I don't doubt him on either point.

That's why gators, bears, cats, etc etc are hunted until destroyed after they kill people.

So when "animal lovers" feed wild animals, or become food for wild animals, the animals then view humans as a food source and must be destroyed.

I believe that's probably why the zoo is now a more dangerous place for people, and this poor woman who loved this cat probably signed its death warrant.

I'm not a real extreme person, but I do take idolatry to extremes. I believe politics, sports, animal worship, book reading, TV, the internet and a whole host of other things qualify as idolatry in our Western culture.

What was once probably a healthy hobby may have become an obsession and perhaps idolatry, due to the lack of the one most important thing in this woman's life.

What difference does it make if one denomination is in unity with another? Isn't it true that even if we stand amongst a small group or amongst a large group, aren't all groups going to have the wheat and the weeds grow together until the end (Matthew 13:30)?

If that be true, which we know it is, what is the real danger of uniting together around the resurrected Christ?

Here I can sympathize though. I mean for me I can barely control myself after noon prayer. Noon prayer just brings out the stoner in me. I can't even pray at noon anymore around rocks...as soon as I'm done if I see a rock I hurl it and chant "Death to Israel."

The real problem here is noon prayer and rocks and bottles and things like this all mixed together.

Lethal.

Don't go blaming the religion of peace or I'll get you after evening prayer. Evening prayer really brings out the stoner in me. I can't even pray at night with rocks around but that's another story...

Iran must really feel they are on the brink of war. I don't feel that way,
but then it's probably because they're so guilty. Killing people in Iraq...developing nuclear weapons...terror activity. They probably figure they must be on a list somewhere.

Anyway I wish they would tone down the rhetoric.

It only leads to:

I need to apoloize to TB from Canada as well, as he is correct in that Haggard does not need us to forgive him. He needs God to forgive him.

I joked around with that point and probably shouldn't have.

Mathew started the thread with "I forgive him," and further stated he wanted to head off some negative comments.

A lot of people come through here and are drawn to the passion the regular posters display towards the Lord. It's genuine and awesome, but almost all ask where is the Joy? Where is the love? Where is the Peace?

How can such a great group of Bible reading Brothers and Sisters not display the fruits of the spirit?

You are a great group too, but I'm not the only one who has asked this question here.

I know your post didn't refrence Haggard, but I assumed it. Perhaps I shouldn't have.

You are correct...The SS Haggard is showing more leaks.

Neil isn't the larger point that a Christian leader, which Haggard surely was, would not run to Psychology, but run to God for help?

You know the Richard Dawkins book, as silly as it is, "the God Delustion", has a pretty funny story of how all this came to be an issue. The lies and deceptions used by the Imams to create an insult.