I agree with your the Biblical points ...but I don't have enough information to judge Rick.

Sex is the main way of transmission. There needs to be places that can support people in changing lifestyles.
A church service is not enough. There very few churches in some places. People may need vocational training so they have income sources other than prostitution.

I feel like the conference is trying to bring people together to talk about things they can do like that worldwide...but that does not mean Rick is putting down preaching or excluding preaching.

Rick is not saying Hillary is a Christian...again, Hillary is not the only person invited. That was my complaint. The title is misleading AND inflammatory...witness the reactions of most the post-ers.

Exodus International converts many "sodomites". But they also say hateful rhetoric never changes a "sodomite".

Honestly, I believe all the things about sin...but again, how we can be more like Jesus...and less like his worst enemies...the p-h-a-r-i-s-e-e-s.

kenny wrote:
What AIDS issue?
They (we all) know exactly what causes AIDS. They (we all) know exactly how it spreads. They (we all) know exactly how to stop it dead in it's tracks.

But, what if some others could be convinced of the same? People that don't have that opinion now? That is what Rick is trying to do.

To the rest of the post: Matthew 5:43-48. Do we condemn the sodomites to hell before they die?

Could we become like Jesus who ate with prostitutes and tax collectors... AND still be able to say, in front of them "I have come to call sinners to repentance." Or "Woman your sins are forgiven." in away that made them feel drawn even though told they had sin?

Terry in answer...AIDS is epidemic, in places like Africa and India. Many non-homosexuals are infected. Rick Warren's church is involved in other "mercy ministries" through various programs.

Terry Evans mentions "knowing them by their fruit"...I totally agree...
but would go back to your post of 11/21. " ever wonder what spirit is the most prevelant on this site, and why?" There seems to be a lot of emotional, judgement here...
which leads to Dessie's "Wake UP!" with the ugly face comment...

I am not sure why that was necessary... even if we disagree. How can we interact with anyone if we immediately flame them?

My original observation that the title of the article was misleading,was not even addressed...

As far as the comment about "keeping our beliefs away from our life, ..." that is exactly what I am trying to address.

Judgmental, snide remarks will not touch any heart...we have got to incorporate our pro-life ideals into all our actions with our people. The anger of man does not work the righteousness of God.

God hates sin...God judges sin...God will punish sinners...I agree with all these things...

I dislike Hillary and all that she stands for. But in the real world we often have to work out issues with our "enemies".

In fact, a famous book that I read says "love your enemies, pray for those who spitefully use you." All Rick Warren is doing is trying to create a place to work on the AIDS issue. To work out real world solutions to real world issues. He is not saying anything about any of the candidates belief systems...it is an AIDS conference, not his Sunday morning service.

BTW, Abigail, do you know how much Rick Warren personally makes per year? Do you know what he did concerning his salary and his book royalties?

All the persecution stories that end in conversions involve LOVING the tormentor...EVEN IF this guy was a Muslim, VILIFYING him and going of half cocked will NOT change any Muslims hearts for Christ.