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Mike N.Y. wrote:
what Scripture says?
Mike;
Here is a couple of quotes from Prof John Murray, ex your US Westminster Theol Seminary.

"Regeneration is inseparable from its effects and one of its effects is faith. Without Regeneration it is morally and spiritually impossible for a person to believe in Christ."

"If Regeneration is the way of entrance (into the Kingdom of God) then those Regenerated have entered and having entered they see the Kingdom of God and are members of it. This is again the pointed lesson of Jesus in John 3.6 "that which is born of Spirit is spirit" that is to say the person born of the Holy Spirit is indwelt and directed by the Spirit. The regenerate person cannot live in sin and be unconverted."

"Regeneration is the beginning of all saving grace in us and all saving grace in exercise on our part proceeds from the fountain of Regeneration. We are not born again by faith or repentance or conversion - We repent and believe because we have been Regenerated."

"God's call since it is effectual carries with it the operative grace whereby the person called is enabled to answer the call and embrace Jesus...
And that grace is the grace of regeneration"
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