SteveR wrote:
Again with the Allan diversion? You, John and very Unprofitable Servant are in such darkness, you cant understand the very simple argument raised by Mr b. Mr b's argument isnt whether Catholics are saved or not, his argument is why does this message board(or perhaps Christians in general) have an insatiable appetite to attack people who are professing Christians instead of uniting against the great forces of evil coming against Christians in 2013. (My reply was that you are the ignorant allies of evil that cant help themselves to which your responses validate)
This small ray of light noted by Mr b has thrown you, Johnuk and Unprofitable Servant scurrying for the dark corners of past message board arguments for cover

Sure the RCC is a false church and the whore. The fact that you love the whore exposes you as a false believer, trying to seduce true believers.

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
SteveR, You know there are Christians in the RCC because they follow the commandments of God (I John 2:6), maybe because they hate every false way (Psalm 119:104), or could it be due to the fact that they have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness (Ephesians 5:11)could be it they are still there because they love the praise of men more than the praise of God (John 12:43) or they realize what fellowship has God with idols and are yoked together in their services with unbelievers and they have a part of a believer with an unbeliever but they don't have to come out from among them (I Corinthians 6:14-17) Maybe it is the forbidding to marry and abstaining from meats and the previous verses that describe them (I Timothy 4:1-3) Oh but what about people in all denominations, maybe you need to reread the parable of the tares and the wheat (Matthew 13:24-30) People may indeed be saved while they are a member of the RCC, but the proof in the pudding is they come out from it and its heretical teachings. If you have an issue with that then your argument is with the above Scriptures, take it up with the Author.

KJVer wrote:
The issue here is not just the translation. If it were merely to update archaic English, then the matter can be resolved very easily.
The issue against the "multi-versionists only" is the underlying texts. They will go to any lengths to discredit the Byzantine text family of which the TR is part. So what it boils down to is whether you believe that God has preserved the original text in the "Ecclesiastical Text" which formed the basis of the KJV and all previous translations, or whether you believe the current notion of preservation viz. that this is in the total number of manuscripts available and that the exact text preserved can only be deciphered by the "scholars"!
Michael H - you should remember that both Codex Vaticanus and Sinaiticus were in the hands of the RCC!! These are the 2 most problematic texts because they differ so widely from the rest, and yet these are the codices upon which the majority of modern versions are based!!

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Johnuk

'How is a person expected to know whether a Christian is "True" or "False" if they all spout the same hatred and intolerance?'

This sounds like a typical response from a homosexual when challenged with scripture BECAUSE the Bible exposes his sin as an abomination. Now interestingly I know several former homosexuals and a lesbian who had that exact opinion-chrstians are intolerant hypocrites filled with hatred-yet it was the very same christians who loved them enough to witness the gospel. Now that they no longer practise their chosen abomination they are the ones who the pink community can no longer tolerate and hate with venom! They have simply become enemies because they tell the truth and yes they evidence changed lives, but not perfection.

Read I John 1: 5-10. Those born again (John 3) still sin, but notice they belong to the red community-the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST 'cleanseth' present tense.

Without God's Spirit you can not see spiritual truth-hence to you Jesus is not God the Son. Without Christ's blood you are a lost soul sunk in sin.

You are correct read Matthew 7: 16-22 and 23: 13-33

and Matth 7: 1-6

I guess you did the good person test
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Here is a most important question: What think you of Christ?

It pointless you giving examples of folk who we do not know and who cannot defend themselves.

All who are TRUE Christians do know the the Lord Jesus Christ and most are readily set for the defence of the gospel, yet I don't believe you really need our input.

The problem is that most athiests claim to have a knowledge of the bible but few have studied the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ-many just simply google the well worn and refuted athiest arguments-yet the answers to any honest questions are readily available

Can I kindly suggest you go and intently study first the person and work of Christ in the gospels with the aim of honestly answering the question:

'What think you of Christ?'

Then I am sure you will have some very profound and interesting personal observations in reaching an honest conclusion, God be pleased to bless such an honest study

Who is the Lord Jesus Christ?

see

I agree with your 'Ring a bell?' comments, sad as it is

Two churches in Swansea area with the same minister-might be of interest if you ever drive that way................

Minister in charge: Rev Dynes Uprichard
Pisgah FPC (Loughor, Swansea)
Free Presbyterian Church Extension
Telephone 01792 229399
Email: [email protected]

Minister in charge: Rev Dynes Uprichard
Emmanual Free Presbyterian Church
Emmanuel, Bryn Rhos,
Bryn, Llanelli, S.Wales
Telephone 01792 229399.
Email: [email protected]

Great sermon you mentioned-God bless your witness and ever guide you continually.

1 Peter 4:14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

Have you never considered...

Is there not a FPCofUlster near you? They are everything you seem to desire-and have a good unity where men differ on baptism-so Ryle and Spurgeon sit side by side

'We have no time for a dead, intellectual Calvinism that refuses to offer Christ freely to sinners with the assurance that “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Rom. 10:13). Some of the greatest revival preachers in history have been strong asserters of God’s sovereignty in salvation, men like John Bunyan, Jonathan Edwards, Asahel Nettleton, George Whitefield, Robert Murray McCheyne, and Charles Haddon Spurgeon.'
http://www.fpcna.org/fpcna_about_sep.asp?chapter=sep_sovereign

'In its evangelism, the Free Presbyterian Church has always taken its stand for the free offer of the gospel and has never seen the doctrines of election and particular redemption as taught in Scripture and as set forth in the Westminster Confession of Faith as any barrier to this position. It has sought to keep its Calvinistic theology Christ-centered.

To quote above John's GOOD READ.

Looking at the Pastors/Ministers on the TBS Commitee you'll find those Westminister types above and also Reformed Baptists. These Reformed Baptists are also full blooded PROTESTANTS. Interestingly in the UK these are the ministries God uses/is using

Maybe there is something to note here?

The throwing off of PROTESTANT distinctives? The last uk revival would be Ian Paisley and the FPC of Ulster...interestingly returning to PROTESTANT DISTINTIVES including 'evangelising the lost' and God blessed such

'It was Dr. Alberto Rivera, The Former Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuit" Bible-Protestant-Church Supplanter, Who Revealed To ALL '

The above quote-now that IS CRACKERS

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PV
Can you point me to where John UK said that "justification needs to supported by human works.." and if he did say that (something that seems vague to me) what do you understand by it?

Incidentally would you care to argue with James when he wrote:

"Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?" Jas 2.21

"Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." Jas 2.24

"Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way" Jas 2.25

Or do you suppose that he was also talking (even though he was under inspiration of the Holy Spirit) a load of codswallop! said SC

PV

Have a read of Luke 2: 1 and notice 'all the world'...then research and find out if the WHOLE WORLD-EVERY INDIVIDUAL was taxed. SC makes a good comment