To many of you TULIP and/or OSAS is the veru gospel itself.

Antinomianism is a monstrous lie and the central message spoken from the pages of the Satanic Bible -- yet you try to run people off the board, remove their postings who post against this ultimate wicked heresy.

You enshrine Antinomianism as the gospel. To refute Antinomianism as the ultimate heresy is, in the minds of you fatalists, to refute the gospel itself.

Your hubris is incredible. Better to just become a Satanist, than to try to sell the message of the Satanic Bible (of "Do As Thou Wilt") as the
Gospel, the Good News message of Holy Scripture. No wonder Jesus said he would rather we would be hot or cold rather than lukewarm.

33k wrote:
Of course, the fall in the value of a currency can actually be a very good thing for an economy, so don't be disheartened.

Our country is in great danger from internal traitors who are working like termites on steroids to crash the ship of state into the rocks and bring on the New World Order. They murdered 3,000 American citizens to get us to lick their boots and give up our rights, and there's nothing else they won't do.

The next govt-sponsored crisis will give their excuse to impose marshal law (military now becomes the police, and anything goes, rape, kick in doors, haul people away, etc). They are eugenicists, Luciferians, itching to reduce world population 80-90 percent by war, famine, pestilance. They love it!

JES wrote:
You are one of these false prophets. You believe you are correct because God has deceived you because of the idols in your heart.

Actually, it's just Battlefield Baptist getting ready for Halloween. Their theme this year is Lake of Fire, and there's a bunch of us they want to throw into it. And it may just be a real fire too!

Their main speaker will be Yamil, who will be dressed in a lab coat and combat boots, and will offer a comedy routine about how to "get a life" and other original one-liners. He will also tell us what a simple declarative sentence is, and he'll be wearing his oversized Bush/Cheney button. After that, there will be fortune telling with Ernie G, who will be sitting in the tent with his crystal ball, also announcing the guests, and trying to get people to sign up to be members of Battlefield (w/ handcuffs hanging out his back pocket). MBL will be dressed as Frankenstein, and won't even have to put on a constume. JD will be there as the Mad Hatter.

Should be a fun time. You can't get in unless you say the password, which is 1 John 4:3, and you better get it right. No mistakes, or you get thrown in the fire.

JD wrote:
Poor Yamil is innocent and is here, like me, to provide light in a very dark place. He knows that most will keep their eyes closed but a few will see. He knew there would be opposition but he is strong.

He vandalizes this board, steals people's monikers, breaks all the rules and laughs while he does it, posts endless inane and boring posts that trash the forum and turn this place into a forum for juvenile delinquents.

You, JD, don't even have the honesty to lay your positions out clearly. You bury them, advance them like poison, then back off, redefine words, deny and slide away when challenged.

JD wrote:
The subject we were dealing with was "saints" not "Christian" in Re. I answered your errant point by proving that saints does not equal christian.

The fact that Old Testament saints existed before Jesus came is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, which is the future martyred saints in the Tribulation, which you claim are Jews, which is preposterous.

You sound like John Hagee, Pope John Paul and some others, who say that Jews don't need Jesus, not to try to convert them, that they are "okay" just the way they are -- without Jesus.

Not only are the Jews without Jesus not saints, they are Hell bound and lost and children of Satan.

God isn't a racist, and nobody is going to get to Heaven because of their DNA or lack thereof. Otherwise, Jesus would not have needed to come and die.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Obvious Truth, you should realize that dispensationalism is not as wrong as preterism is.

Because Dispensationalism nullifies most of the Bible and Judaizes the rest. It is cowardly Christianity, looking to ignite WWIII so as to trigger a nonexistent rapture.

Preterism is not an impetus to warmongering and such selfish cowardice, shocking hatred and bigotry as we see exhibited in the followers of Dispensationalism, who have endorsed nuking innocent people across the ocean, and torturing people by waterboarding, raping with battery acid, crushing the testicals of babies in front of their parents.

This kind of barbarism is more what you'd expect from Luciferians or Satanists, not professing Christians.

I have no doubt had these "Christians" lived in the days of WWII and Hitler they would have been good little Nazis, laughed at the people behind the barbed wire, made jokes about the smells coming out of the crematoriums, and turned their neighbors in with a smile and a joke, and then go sing hymns and slap each other on the back in church.

Yammering Yamil is here to "keep the faith" for the IFBs, as he struts around the board, posting garbage, filling up the pages with trash, braying like a donkey, spouting the same lame "jokes" that weren't funny the first time, incorporating Bush propaganda death slogans into his monikers. Real attractive guy, about as likeable as JD, MBL, Bro. Williams, ErnieG or the rest of the Battlefield bullies.

He'll be bragging he's a pastor, a hacker, writing a book on Calvinism, even though his English is limited, his grammar and spelling is a joke, and he can't figure out much of the Bible.

Which is why he sticks with John 3:16, the dictionary definition of "world" and his "simple declarative statements," and why he needs to get himself an Italian large-print Bible.

Yamil Luciano, the fraud.

NOT a doctor.
NOT a pastor.
NOT clever.
NOT funny.
NOT an American citizen.
NOT a patriot.
NOT "anti-terrorist."
NOT a hacker.
NOT a Christian.
NOT an author.
NOT a writer.
NOT a thinker.

JD wrote:
Are you telling me that a Jew cannot keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus and therefore cannot be a saint?

The early Christians were former Jews, and many died for their faith at the hands of Jews, just as Jesus himself did. They had to meet in secret, for fear of the Jews, and Paul was hounded from city to city by Jews who hated him for believing in Jesus.

Just as it is in Israel today for Christians, especially former Jews.

Being a Christian supercedes being a Jew, not vice versa. From the moment of his conversion, Paul spent his whole life winning converts to Jesus, not to Judaism, thought of himself as a Christian.

I wonder, since you believe as you do, you've not officiallly converted to Judaism, wear one of those little yarmulkes, go beat on the wailing wall and call out for the Messiah they think has never come.

Abigail wrote:
How much clearer could it be that we must obey our Lord.

IFBs like to make themselves literal priests in the home, where many "purify" their wives by reading scripture to them and keeping them in abject subjection by force and abuse.

They twist and wrest Scripture to the extreme, as the RCs do, to demonstrate their "superior" faith in believing the "literal word of God."

But truly, most of what they believe can be found in their Scofield Bible footnotes.

IFBs usually have a dominating pastor, and the people swallow every word he says. IFB pastors get their doctrine from Judaizing seminaries like Liberty Baptist. All Baptist seminaries, bar none, are corrupted by Dispensationalism and Pre-trib rapturism.

If a man starts an IFB church without attending seminary, he still swallows the same heresies.

JD wrote:
Well, I'll be! Now Jews cannot be saints?

No, they are not a saint.

Nowadays there is only one kind of saint. That is a Christian. You either are or you aren't, and if you're not, then you can't be a saint.

There is no way with the occultic things that you and your Israel First Antinomian friends at Battlefield believe regarding Jewish Supremacy that you can be Christians.

In the New Testament, only Christians are saints, people who love Jesus, period. People who hate Jesus are not saints, no matter how you redefine words to suit your Judaizing heresies.

Rev. 12:11 And they (the Tribulation saints) overcame him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

cbcpreacher wrote:
the second three and one half years of the tribulation is called the Time of Jacob's Trouble (Jer. 30:7-which is a dual prophecy). All the world will be under God's judgment, but it will be an extremely difficult time for the Jews as the Antichrist vents his anger and hatred of God toward the chosen nation of Israel.

Rev. 13:7 And it was given unto him (the Antichrist) to MAKE WAR WITH THE SAINTS, and to OVERCOME THEM: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him...

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; ...

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast..

cbc Preacher wrote:
Tonight, in our evening service, I began a series of lessons that will address the issues of the end times. I will teach about the pre-trib rapture of the church and the coming of an Antichrist.

The blood of Christians will flow during the Tribulation. We will suffer the wrath of Satan, as Christians have throughout history.

The Bible says the Antichrist will wage war against the SAINTS and prevail. It doesn't say ANYTHING about waging war against the Jews.

In fact, the Antichrist will be received by the Jews as their Messiah. All but a remnant will worship this Antichrist, help him track down and kill all the Christians because they hate Jesus and they hate Christians, as they have always, from the beginning, when they screamed "Crucify him" to Pontius Pilate."

What makes you think the phony Jewish messiah, installed by the Synagogue of Satan itself, will be going after Jews. That makes NO SENSE!

Wayne wrote:
Obvious Truth
Try 'IF saved always saved' A true work of grace will be performed until the day of Christ and there will be evidence!

Getting saved is easy. You just open the door and invite Jesus in. He has promised never to turn anybody down, nobody.

Maybe your mother and daughter never got off the launching pad because they started hearing all the dry doctrines, lies about how God was going to do it all and they had nothing to fear, so they quenched, grieved and insulted the Holy Spirit away, failed to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling.

Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and you are teaching people to treat God like a big nothing, teaching people to be Antinomian fatalist bowls of Jello, people who say, okay, I'm not going to worry, because God will do it and I don't want to try to be working my way to Heaven.

You and Lurker like to trade insults with really dumb Baptists who make big targets, but you are just as dumb as they are.

You claim to want people to come to Jesus, that he will save everybody. Then you preach your mumbo jumbo judaizing claptrap about the Jews, that God is going to send people to Hell because the have the wrong nationality on their birth certificate or passport, a "goat" nation that opposed Israel or didn't help the Jews blow up the world.

You turn your back on the Tribulation saints and say it's all about the poor Jews.

The poor Jews who want to take away our KJB as hate literature, who want to burn every one of those Bibles, and kill every man, woman and child who loves Jesus, or who is associated with Christianity in any way.

And not only do they hate God, but they love Lucifer. They practice ungodly occultic rituals and the star of David so-called is the most powerful occultic symbol there is. The leaders in Israel are thugs and murderers, and Revelation calls Jerusalem "Sodom and Egypt."

This Man of Sin Antichrist will be destroyed by Jesus at the Last Trump, at the Second Coming, with the "brightness of his coming" (II Thes. 2). Christians will be here as long as the antichrist is here, as Paul taught.

The horrors of Iraq right now are just a foretaste. The United States is about to, on behalf of Israel, attack and nuke Iran. Can you believe it!

The Bush cabel are Jews, and their administration is Jewish, made up of dual-citizen Jews and Mossad, Jewish rabbis. Hillary is a Jew, calling to nuke Iran. The U.S. is just an extension of Israel, pouring billions in to help form their New World Order and bring in their phony messiah antichrist.

The book of Revelation talks about the death of the saints at the hands of the Jewish Antichrist and False Prophet.

It's not in the Bible that the Jews are the victims. This is fairy tales, pure make-believe.

Do As Thou Wilt.

No different.

You people are saying avoid trying to try to do good, don't even try, because if you try that means you are "working," and that means you don't have faith in Jesus, you're trying to "work your way to Heaven," trusting in yourself rather than Jesus, and you may as well be an RC.

So that means you just get blown around by whatever impulse hits you, because you don't want to control what you do in any way. That would mean WORKS, and WORKS ARE BAD, BAD, BAD. No works. Kill the works.

So how is this any different than what Anton Lavey says in his Satanic Bible: