Put it to the test The city spoken in the Rev is identified in Isaiah chapter 1:21.
Regarding Matt 24,
Amos 9:8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth;
I don't think there's any debate on who the sinful kingdom is.
James cited here in Acts 15 the Amos 9:10 being an event that was fulfilled. A done deal.....And most certainly occurring before 70 AD.
Acts 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Acts 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
While I admit that most Christians do say 70 AD, the bible teaches it occurred when disciples were given the new name (Isa 62:2).... when disciples were first called Christians (Acts 11:26)...When Paul cited Isa 49:6 as being spoken about himself in Acts 13:47.....
when Matt. 21:43 was fulfilled.
Put it to the test In Rom 13, His instrument of vengeance is the sword and the rod of iron of Rev 19 wielded by the son of man. All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword (Amos 9:10-12, cf Acts 15:15-18).
There's no biblical warrant for Rom 13 to be a reference to civil magistrates. Its simply a misunderstanding of whom bears the sword and furthermore what the sword even is.
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for **he beareth not the sword in vain:** for he is the minister of God, **a revenger to execute wrath** upon him that doeth evil.
Hereâ€™s a quick test. If the above "minister of God" is a reference to secular authorities, then why is that same revenger - which revealed wrath in Rom 1:18- said to have come from heaven?
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed** from heaven** against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Mike, videos can be manipulated so just because it's a video doesn't guarantee that it's showing what it should be âť—đź‘Ž I would also add this. "5 Georgia election fraud claims explained" "Suspicions of voting fraud are unproven"
Jim, Our own security forces have positively identified Antifia members, per face recognition technology, as the instigators and seems now they have evidence of them bragging about it as well.
Regarding the fraud, Georgian voters were stolen from twice. They are also the ones certifying the bogus results and are the ones explaining no fraud happened. Too many patriots have come forward with documented evidence Jim.
Jim Lincoln wrote: They can always complain to the Georgia Secretary of State if they think they got a case.
That's proven to be a worthless action probably because they are in on the theft of the election.
Not one case of the fraud found the light of a courtroom to have it adjudicated by objectionable individuals who concern themselves with judging by the standard of the Constitution. Yet the incompetent left will make attempts and invest millions of tax dollars attempting to impeach a president who is set to leave in a few weeks trying to hold him accountable for the actions taken by the lefts very own CIA division known as Antifa.
G. Bird wrote: A simple question (and I ask this as an Englishman with right wing leanings - I have no fondness for Biden and his Antifa/BLM thugs): Is there actually any solid proof that this election was rigged, or does this all just come down to personal biases and opinions?
Here's a link on SA that I think will offer what your looking for.
I'm quite sure that we all would agree with Scripture alone US, but the point is apart from the writing on the heart the law of Faith (Rom 3:27,Deut. 6:5), which is of God, none respond.
This simple proverb says it all.
Proverbs 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
The pouring of His Spirit is defined clearly as God making known His Words unto you. So what occurred 2000 years ago?
Jer 23:32 Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.
His people were being taught lies, hence Matt. 21:43. The Wheat turned, while the tares remained.
So when He made this promise...
Zech 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace
He did so by His chosen Vessel Paul.
Paul is said to be a pattern (1 Tim 1:14) for believers from that point forward so believers, if they are following the pattern Paul said he was, are chosen vessels as well.
Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand...
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Not denying manâ€™s inability, not denying that only Godâ€™s sheep will hear His voice, denying the non Biblical premise that men are not called to respond to the gospel when clearly they are.
Yes...but here's what I think is being overlooked in your posts US, they respond due to what's been written on their heart which is The work of God (John 6:29)
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Gay M Allen wrote: Thank You James, and ladybug~! your help is awesome, I respect your wisdom as I have been reading your comments for a while now and have come to the conclusion that they are accurate and you speak truth, may God bless you.
Amen to your reply LB!
Psalm 100:3 Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.
May God bless you Gay.
So glad to hear the wonderful news about your Son MS.
Something to Consider The Revelation frequently draws on visual images found in the OT prophets and TheÂ twoÂ witnesses in Rev 11Â are no different. They can be spoken of in Zech 4.Â Â
Rev 11:3-4Â And I will giveÂ powerÂ unto myÂ two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundredÂ andÂ threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These areÂ the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Zech 4:3 And two olive trees by it, one upon the rightÂ sideÂ of the bowl, and the other upon the leftÂ sideÂ thereof.
Zech 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, WhatÂ areÂ these two olive trees upon the rightÂ sideÂ of the candlestick and upon the leftÂ sideÂ thereof?
Zech 4:14 Then said he, TheseÂ areÂ the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
There are too many references found in the prophets to attempt to interpret the Revelation stand alone (post 96AD) without the context of the referenced prophets.
God inspired John to write what he did and had a purpose in drawing on the prophets. It is for us to learn that purpose if we hope to properly interpret the Revelation.
Gay M Allen wrote: Thank You All, BLB is great I forgot all about it too, what is your opinion of e-sword.net ?
I can't speak on the esword site as I haven't used it.
In my thoughts, The bottom line is that commentaries are written by men wheras Scripture is written by God. Scripture has its own commentary given through the cross references of the prophets cited by the NT authors. That's why there can really be no such thing as a New Testament church as the NT is citing prophets and explaining what they said in detail.
Acts 15:16 cites Amos 9:11. That creates an objective context that's there for us to explore, learn, and ask questions. Like;
What sword? How did God raise the tabernacle of David again? What happened to the first?
Does modern worship consist of such dialogue?
None I'm aware of yet Jer 9:24 says God delights in us knowing and understanding Him and He promised to give us a heart so that we could (Ezek. 36:26)
There are plenty of these tethered texts in which to do the same such as these: Acts 2:17 / Joel 2:28 Isa. 49:6/ Acts 13:46-47
Anyway, I hope this can be of help to you or anyone else for that matter.
Jennifer Cunningham wrote: What is the fascination with Trump the narcissist, get over it. The people has spoken, look at his behavior after the election, firing and putting down people who donâ€™t agree with his wicked assumptions with no proof, even the judges he put in there didnâ€™t buy it.
Here's a source right here on SermonAudio which contains the proof of the Dominion voting machines ability to be manipulated by an outside source via a wireless internet connection. Javan Pulitzer, an IT expert detailed how a team infiltrated the machine in Fulton County and could manipulate the information it contained during a GA senate panel hearing.
Another shared the same information in Michigan a whistle blower named Melissa C. She is an IT professional hired by Dominion.
The corruption is being reported and documnented in hearings, its just not being covered by media. I wonder why?
ladybug wrote: Yes James, blb is an excellent source for study. I use bible hub too, but prefer blb. Concerning Isaiah, spot on. God teaches His sheep His truth. Hope your day is filled with Christ, a deeper desire to know Him, and to proclaim Him to a world that is getting darker by the hour...
Thank you for those well wishes. May God continue to bless you!
Ladybug wrote: Excellent advice James interlinear bibles are helpful in the studying of His word as well. Keeping chapters and verses in context and cross referencing is a must. Sometimes it's helpful to look at parallel translations as we study. In the end, the Spirit teaches and guides the sheep all truth.
Great advice as well LB! I use the www.blb.org to do what you mentioned, although there are others.
Your last sentence reminded me of His promise to teach those who are His.
Isaiah 54:13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.
Jennifer Cunningham wrote: What is the fascination with Trump the narcissist, get over it. The people has spoken, look at his behavior after the election, firing and putting down people who donâ€™t agree with his wicked assumptions with no proof...
Something to consider.
What if what he is saying is true and not wicked assumptions? What if those whom he thought he could trust turned on him?
Look, No one here is fascinated with Trump as far as I know, except maybe for Jim. He loves Trump.
The problem is the people have not spoken. They have been stolen from. The proof of a stolen election is not being reported but actually censored by the MSM and the evidence is plentiful.
Read the 106 page lawsuit in Georgia filed by Sidney Powell. The allegations of treason are backed by witnesses ready testify.
The state of Penn. mailed out 1.7 million ballots and received back 2.5 million. Even my 7 year old Grandson knows something is wrong with that.
That's just two examples but there's plenty more.
I would think a Christian would, above all else, desire truth to prevail and let the chips fall where they may. And if that happens, Biden and Harris will be placed in the jailhouse, not the White house.
Gay Allen, Study notes in any bible will flow in conjunction with the authors understanding. So my opinion would be to use the ones He ordained to provide study notes to us to begin with. Namely, The prophets.
Dr. Tim wrote: There is substantial evidence that Mr. Trump did win the election, Jim. Tragically for America, the same cabal of crooked citizens, politicians, judges and newspeople who stole the election not from Donald Trump, but from the American people, are now denying and suppressing the evidence of fraud on the same massive scale as the election counting itself. If itâ€™s â€śfairâ€ť for the left to take the election by fraud, then I for one say that it is equally fairâ€”nay, more than fairâ€”for the right to repossess it by force. I think itâ€™s time for martial law until civil law can be restored.
Neil wrote: However great a man he may have been, he did not have the last word on how NT Greek should be translated. If one must paraphrase, it should be as close as possible to the original word, and "abusing themselves" is too vague â€“ there are many ways to abuse oneself.
No he didn't have the last word and Tyndale was quite open to having his English translation from the Greek critiqued as he stated in his intro in the 1534 NT rendering. But He found that his Hebrew translation work helped him better translate the Greek into English by the Hebrew OT citations found in the Greek NT. Since Hebrew was more easily translated into English than Greek in his eyes, he utilzed that nuance to Essentially have Scripture translating Scripture.
And your right, there are many ways to abuse oneself like those who did so with man's wisdom defiling themselves, prefering their idols over God's Word.
1 Cor. 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
If you look across the prophets, the souls were defiled by lies served up by the priests. (Mal.2:1)
Same spoken here as well.
Ezek 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols,
I did misunderstand your point so thanks for the clarification.
The translation found in the KJV is the same rendering William Tyndale first used in 1526 so the KJV translations team didn't do any whitewashing of the term but simply left it untouched like the other 90% of Tyndales translation. While I understand your reasoning, I think the original rendering by Tyndale paints a more accurate picture when other Scripture, like the examples I gave, is taken into consideration.