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It's the same as the word "Democracy" as soon as the politicians get into power they loose the use of that word.

Now that Obama has got his knees under the desk who cares, - and all this talk about his faith???

Luke 12:20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? 21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.


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"If that verse would have said that we were chosen to be saved before the foundation of the world, we would be amening one another right now and slapping one another on the back. However, that is not what it says. It says were were chosen "in him" before the foundation of the world"

4 According as he hath chosen us IN HIM before the foundation of the world.....
5 Having PREDESTINATED us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

"In Him"
All that God the Father did is "In Christ" The whole creation unto salvation is "In Christ" God knew from the "beginning" that the Lamb of God - the Son of God would have to walk among us and by death and resurrection save His chosen people.

Thus this does NOT restrict the omniscient perception of our sovereign God, our Father in Heaven.

JD you are trying to limit God, by your refusal to accept the simple truth of the words of the text.
This is not doctrinal debate. It is just reading what Paul actually wrote.

Beginning - Means the real beginning.

Chosen before the foundation of the world means the same "beginning."

If the "In Him" implied a different time frame (of the act) then the term *chosen-before* would be superfluous.


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This passage completely makes the before the foundation of the worlders out to be liars even thougth some do not even realize it. I am being kind to you here. This is the beginning of the gospel and that is all it is!
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Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will"

You really shouldn't call the Lord a liar.


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"More Americans are acquainted with a gay or lesbian person than an evangelical, according to a recent study."

Pr 29:16 When the wicked are multiplied, transgression increaseth: but the righteous shall see their fall.

Psalm 12:8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.



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