The Islam/Muslim religion is man made and complete fallacy. It is not even credited with being heresy it is so far from truth and the Word of God.

For Obama or anyone to credit Islam with equal status to Christianity is pure ignorance of truth.

If there was another religion which man could reach heaven and salvation by - Then why would God crucify His Beloved Son???

Islam whether in perceived "moderate" form or extremism is satanic, false, deception and spurious chicanery. They may as well believe in fairy tales.

tb wrote:
Augustine was influenced by Platonic fatalism in interpreting the Scriptures. His anti-freewill, flesh-is-inherently

tb wrote:
having to twist the Bible to support your pet Calvinism and just let the Bible speak for itself! Well did Peter say that unlearned and unstable men twist Paul's writings.

When we read WCF and reformed standards we perceive the truth by grace and by faith and that these standards reflect the teaching of Scripture.

We teach God is absolutely sovereign in our faith, heart and understanding. Thus do we perceive the doctrines of grace as being FROM GRACE. And thus are they entirely Biblical and truth.

TULIP and the Canons of Dordt were written by Christians by the grace of God. We are enabled to identify Biblically and truthfully with that fact.

God's saved people were elected before the foundation of the world. God knows who we are by foreknowledge. God's quickening comes to the elect at a time in our life when God has predestinated us to be born again.

Thus ALL glory and praise to God.
Nothing to man.

Frank wrote:
scripture talks about believing in the gospel and that we must come, etc. In other words, there are a lot of scriptures that talk about man having some responsibilities in this process

Dictionary.
Responsibility::- "the state or fact of being responsible, answerable, or accountable for something within one's power, control, or management."

Whereas the Christian response by faith is under the will and power of God and under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Jn 16:13 "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."

Therefore to get into the truth is only by the divine guidance of the Holy Spirit. No Spirit No truth.
And
John 8:32 "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

tb wrote:
"doctrines of grace"

These Arminian free will disciples allow mortals to believe they have the free will to go against God and save themselves anyway. If celebrity preachers like Graham can ditch Scripture to save (decision making) anybody then they can ditch it too. Thus the satanic concept of "gay" Christian is given credence.

If like the non-Calvinist salvation only requires human input and it works - AND God cooperates anyway from human decision then anything goes; sins, abominations, heresies all are made viable to the (Liberal) church.

Whereas:-
"Total Depravity
The Scriptures clearly teach that the effects of sin have extended to all parts of our being, rendering us incapable of spiritual understanding and love towards God. Despite the heading of this first article, it does not indicate that all people are as wicked as they could possibly be in all areas of belief and practice. However, sin has so fully and deeply affected our lives that, spiritually speaking, we are in a totally hopeless condition, unable to do anything to get ourselves out of this fallen state.
Our natural spiritual incapacity prevents us from being able to respond by our own strength to the call of the gospel message, yet this does not remove our guilt. We choose to follow the natural inclinations of our depraved hearts because when left to ourselves that is all we want to do."

Mike wrote:
This view gives the Holy Spirit to the unconverted that they may believe unto salvation

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
"The Mother of the Church, carries on in heaven her maternal role with regard to the members of Christ, cooperating in the birth and development of divine life in the souls of the redeemed"
John if you believe that is historical Biblical Christianity it is because you are sorely deceived

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Still no Scripture quoted to back your position

Catechism (c/w Scripture refs) teaching FYI:-

Q31: With whom was the covenant of grace made?
A31: The covenant of grace was made with Christ as the second Adam, and in him with all the elect as his seed.[1]

1. Gal. 3:16; Rom. 5:15-21; Isa. 53:10-11

Q32: How is the grace of God manifested in the second covenant?

A32: The grace of God is manifested in the second covenant, in that he freely provideth and offereth to sinners a Mediator,[1] and life and salvation by him;[2] and requiring faith as the condition to interest them in him, promiseth and giveth his Holy Spirit [3] to all his elect, to work in them that faith,[4] with all other saving graces;[5] and to enable them unto all holy obedience,[5] as the evidence of the truth of their faith [6] and thankfulness to God,[7] and as the way which he hath appointed them to salvation.[8]
1. Gen. 3:15; Isa. 42:6; John 6:27
2. I John 5:11-12
3. John 1:12; 3:16
4. Prov. 1:23
5. II Cor. 4:13
6. Gal. 5:22-23
7. Ezek. 36:27
8. James 2:18, 22
9. II Cor. 5:14-15

Yet another attack of the worldly upon the Witness of God.

Why he asks is their no outcry against this evil act? - Because the world does not want to proclaim evil. Political Correctness prefers the more insidious covert murmur with the pretext of affectation, a pretence of being disturbed. Don't forget that the world worships Satan and sin prevents them from castigating his works.

Only when the servant of Satan is insidiously trying to disguise himself to further his masters aims does the servant pretend to criticize his masters works. As do we see the pretence of the heretic Graham family theatrics in this article.

Mike wrote:
How much is there difference between changing a jot or tittle, or keeping them, but reworking them to fit a favored theology? Works of man either way. 6 of one...

Rob Bell will be a dedicated Arminian.

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
one single verse

FYI:-
WCF14/1. The grace of faith, whereby the elect are enabled to believe to the saving of their souls,a is the work of the Spirit of Christ in their hearts,b and is ordinarily wrought by the ministry of the Word;c by which also, and by the administration of the sacraments and prayer, it is increased and strengthened.d

a. Heb 10:39. • b. Eph 1:17-19; 2:8; 2 Cor 4:13. • c. Rom 10:14, 17. • d. Luke 17:5; Acts 20:32; Rom 1:16-17; 4:11; 1 Pet 2:2.

2. By this faith a Christian believeth to be true whatsoever is revealed in the Word, for the authority of God himself speaking therein;a and acteth differently upon that which each particular passage thereof containeth; yielding obedience to the commands,b trembling at the threatenings,c and embracing the promises of God for this life and that which is to come.d But the principal acts of saving faith are accepting, receiving, and resting upon Christ alone for justification, sanctification, and eternal life, by virtue of the covenant of grace.e

The only "church" which embraces Sodom and Gomorrah is Satan's church the evil hearted sinners who are destined for hell and damnation.

What is needed today is to get these churches to return to the Bible's Doctrines of Grace. TULIP.

Jesus commanded the church not to change one jot or tittle - one dot or dash - Satan's Liberals are ditching the entire Bible to worship and follow the world.

God's curse is upon the western nations and the churches have turned to dung.

The churches which planted this seed in history are those who remove the authority of God to replace it with the authority of man - The Free willing Roman Arminians who try to save themselves.

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
the WCF is not the Bible

If we look back into history one of the most prolific teachers and builders of the church in their time was the Puritans.
One of the tools which God blessed the Puritans use was the WCF.

The problem with the free willing Roman Arminians both historically and today is the way which they work against Bible doctrine.

Bible teaches God's sovereignty.
Roman Arminians teach God's sovereignty requires mans acquiescence or man cannot be saved.

Bible teaches sin is Total Depravity in man and prevents him from any spiritual activity.
Roman Arminians teach sin is just a head cold which man can overcome with a couple of free will aspirins.

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
I am so sorry your God is so limited that His sovereignty does not allow Him to be a God of means.

John UK wrote:
Not a sniff of hyper Calvinism in his long hair.

But John. You must not expel or exclude God from your theories it just isn't Christian. All this leads to is the same old Roman salvation by works heresy argument by Satan.

In the posts you did below if you were not expelling God - then the posts were complaining about God's errors or inadequacies. Was that what you meant by omitting God?

John UK wrote:
Calvinists will never gain adherents until they can adorn their doctrine with some powerful "good attitudes" and testimony about Jesus Christ

GOD elects.
GOD saves.
God doesn't need human help or cooperation.

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Mike wrote:
If this is not what you believe, I might benefit if you corrected it. And please don't tell me only God knows if she's elect

Mike wrote:
If she's elect, she'll be saved, if not, she won't. Man has nothing to do with anything, so how can anyone be led astray? The elect won't be astray forever, and the non-elect are permanently there. Isn't it comforting to know we need not worry a bit about anything Katy did or what she can do to others?

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John UK wrote:
Let us suppose that Katy's parents were unregenerate raving charismatics, and that this little girl was brought up in such an environment. Have you ANY inkling what that would be like?