I know you will never admit to it, but I need to let you know.
âFor by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.â ââEphesiansâŹ â2:8-9âŹ
The verse in question shows that salvation is by grace and that salvation is through faith. With both faith and grace tied to salvation, wouldnât you think that salvation is the topic of the sentence? So when it says, âit is the gift of Godâ, one should look to the topic to see what it is. Furthermore, there is biblical examples elsewhere to back up the idea that salvation is what God gives believers and that salvation cannot be earned. You have the verse basically saying to believers that He gave them faith after they already believed. Think about who God is talking to here. Also look to the fact that faith is never spoken of as a work that people shouldnât boast about. In fact, it is impossible to boast about faith. There is no boasting in believing that you cannot save yourself and need Jesus to save you!
In John 3:16, whosoever means anyone who wants to believe can. It up to each person.
If Jesus paid the penalty for sins, then He was culpable. He took the blame for them and was punished, supposedly. The Bible doesnât teach that story. If Jesus took on punishment for sins He did not commit He would still be in the grave and suffering for those sins. Having someone pay for your crimes doesnât make you innocent of committing those crimes. It would literally accomplish nothing for Jesus to pay off your sins. You would still die and be separated from Godâs presence. Maybe without the punishment, but still with all of the guilt.
Eph 2:8 Is talking about salvation. That is the point of the sentence! Itâs by grace you are saved and salvation is through faith. Thatâs what it is. However, for the sake of argument letâs say faith is a gift. It doesnât say it is given to people who were arbitrarily picked to be saved before they were born. So my point still stands. Also, if your doctrine about something comes from only one verse, be careful because it is probably not true. God speaks plainly about what He has revealed, so that we may know and not guess.
Jesus said all that the Father gives me will come to me. It is future tense. Meaning, in the future all believers will come to him. Meaning they will go where He is. He says, I have come down from Heaven and will return. That means we will meet Him in Heaven one day. For some reason Calvinist equate âcomeâ which means to move toward, with the word believe. Not sure why in the context.
Funny thing about John 12:19, the phrase is hyperbole and yet it still means the whole world as it says.
Propitiation: The act of reconciliation through atonement. Jesus reconciled the world through His atoning sacrifice on the cross.
Jesus paid for the sins of the whole world, but He was not culpable for the sins of RC, JW, etc.
God provides the means of faith through the preaching of His word so that all who hear it may believe.
The reason you have to state that faith is the gift of God to the elect is because the Bible doesnât teach that anywhere. You shouldnât add to scripture! The elect are generally the nation of Israel or those who believe. So that if there is a person who does not believe, they are not elect, but if they should believe, they will become part of that group selected by God for eternal life.
When God wants to differentiate between Jews and Gentiles, He says so plainly. This is just a sad attempt to disregard what God said! God, in His sovereignty, had it translated the way we would best understand it, so not only does it mean the whole world, it says the whole world. Jesus is the propitiation for our sins. By that time, Jews and Gentiles both became believers, so âoursâ would mean both. Not for Jew and Gentile only, but also for the sins of the whole world. After all, isnât that why God sent His Son? That whosoever believes in Him will have eternal life. Not to mention we are all one in Christ, there is neither Jew or Gentile.
âAnd, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.â ââLukeâŹ â10:25-28âŹ
When Jesus was asked, He said you must love the Lord your God. People will receive eternal life because they believed in Jesus and God showed them mercy.
Jesus died for His sheep, but that doesnât erase the fact that He is the atoning sacrifice for the whole world.
âAnd he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.â ââ1 JohnâŹ â2:2âŹ
If Jesus was culpable for the sins of the whole world, we would know it because He would have remained in the grave and we would all remain condemned. Thereâs no mystery to that fact! Furthermore, having someone else suffer the consequences of your sins doesnât make you innocent of committing those sins.
Jesus did bare the sins of many in His flesh, which doesnât exclude any who will believe, but not all people will believe. Therefore, His death only bares the sins of those who believe and not those who donât.
As the man said, âthis cannot mean that Christ so took upon Himself the sins of the people as to become Himself a sinnerâ and âThey (sins) cannot be literally transferred to anotherâ. What happened is Jesus bared the consequence of our sins, but not the culpability for them. The consequence being, suffering death when He had no business dying.
Jesus did suffer for our sins. He was beaten and died for our sins, because of our sins. He just wasnât culpable or guilty for each and every sin which people have ever committed. Jesus would still be in the grave if that were the case. For one, just for my sins alone, He would have to be punished eternally and would still be dead until my sins were paid for. Yet, Jesus hasnât suffered the consequences for my sins, or anyone elseâs, by the fact of His resurrection. Two, if He weâre guilty of individual sins, He would have been an imperfect sacrifice and unworthy of being resurrected.
So what did the cross accomplish? Jesus having satisfied the requirements of the law and being unjustly put to death, being innocent from the guilt of sin by God (the Father), was raised to life in a new resurrected body.
So what did that accomplish? When Jesus ascended to Heaven, God the Father gave the Holy Spirit to all who believe. Now those who are in Christ are no longer guilty of sin because of the righteousness of Christ.
âTherefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.â ââRomansâŹ â6:4âŹ
âAnd hath raised us up together, and made us sit together
âAnd as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.â ââJohnâŹ â3:14-17âŹ
If I were asked, I would say God lobes the world because that is what Jesus said.
They believe, not only does God not love all of the little children, He down right hates most of them. His hate for them could have arbitrarily been love, but that just wasnât how things fatalisticly panned out. Hey, at least we got ours!
The goat of atonement didnât receive extra punishment from the year before when the Israelis were particularly sinful. Itâs not like the goat was stabbed extra times to suffer for the particular sins of the people. In the same way, Jesus suffered death for our sins, but not extra penalties for each and every sin.
I just gave two examples of people asking what they themselves must do to become saved and the response is to repent and believe. So time and time again, God says this is the way to be saved. Paul was speaking to carnal believers in 1 Corinthians 2, so that is just proof that the natural person can still believe. Itâs harder to join some country clubs than it is to be saved! God makes it easy for one to trust in Him.
âCome unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.â ââMatthewâŹ â11:28-30âŹ
âAnd brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.â ââActsâŹ â16:30-31âŹ
What can a sinner do? They must believe. There is no room for perceiving you are a believer. You must become one through believing of your own accord.
âNow when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.â ââActsâŹ â2:37-38âŹ
What can you do? You must repent and believe. You cannot even receive the Holy Spirit until then. Without Him there is no new creature.
The funny thing about Calvinism is it teaches a person must be made good enough to believe, so in essence it teaches salvation by good works, but because God made the person good enough to perform good works, salvation by works is okay? All because the Calvinist canât get past the fact that faith is not a good work which merits salvation.
âAnd so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:â ââRomansâŹ â11:26âŹ
There is coming a time when all Israel will be saved, meaning they will freely turn to Jesus in faith and believe. This will happen right before His return. Again, it has nothing to do with faith being forced down oneâs throat or an inability to believe.
Calvinism is unbiblical and Spurgeon was wrong. The biblical view doesnât teach that believing is our work of salvation. Faith doesnât merit our salvation! It is not a meritorious work of salvation to repent and believe in Jesus Christ. Faith doesnât give something to God whereby He owes us anything. Faith doesnât produce any work of the law, so it cannot be a work of salvation.
What is all over the place in Scripture? That we are of our own accord to believe and if we donât want to, God wonât force us? I agree! I also agree that not a shred of Calvinism is taught in scripture and therefore is a unscriptural construct!
Talk about side stepping! Are those who are ordained to eternal life believers or unbelievers? According to your proof text it is those who believe-ed. Not unbelievers! One cannot even receive grace until they believe.