2Timothy 3:16 is great on how to instruct someone if they wrong, I don't say I always follow it, I'm not perfect but you sandwich the negative with positive, +--+ that's the sandwich.

I'm curious to what my assumptions were, I don't want unnecessary assumptions.

And John the apostle has shown his testimony to be true, That the darkness hateth the Light, and Jesus as well saying that His disciples shall be hated for His name's sake, and for the truth, but before they hated us they hated Him.

And prayer as well, not to a statue, nor towards Mary, not even a saint, but prayer towards He which holds your very breath.

And prayer as well, not to a statue, nor towards Mary, not even a saint, but prayer towards He which holds your very breath.

I think anyone who thinks that Pastor Jon is not saved or thinks he's doing something seriously wrong and doesn't pray for him certainly needs to examine themselves, if you're just going to nitpick and not take action, you need to repent, hypocrites nitpick and don't help.

I just thought it would be good just to set that forth. Now I your reply was a little troublesome because how I read it was, "Yes it's possible but if so God has not given us tools to discern what is the wrong genre." Since Satan is the enemy of the redeemed and that old serpent and deceiver, I believe that he would invest time in producing a improper genre of worship, and that there would be a way to discern that.

Now, to speak the truth, and I'm not looking to offend you, but that song is blasphemous, "Chilled with no one else" what does that mean? Does God chill with the saved and angels and diss Satan, his host and the unsaved?

I don't attend church, I am part of the church, and I gather with the church, we need to lose this attitude of "Hey honey we're going to be late to church." Christ took the wrath of God for the church, and to say, "attend church" is insulting really.

Now, this happened before, after 9/11 hit (in 2001 time period) there was a great rise in attendance, but that was over, I'm sure more Cubs fans are going to church, and we only know that this is due to Trump being elected for president, and emotionalism.

Not only did Justin Martyr give the normal arguments for Christianity, he also challenged the Emperor to examine the lives of the Christians, and observe their purity.

Now then, would it be reasonable to say that, since Satan or man created a false gospel, and certainly Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light, would it logically follow that man or Satan can manufacture a genre of music that God is appalled at?

I've listened to African Christian music, it certainly is different, they were singing it in Afrikaans, which made it even more...I don't know, original? I tried singing with the music, still remember some lyrics, just not the translation. I like it, at least the song I listened to.

I've also listened to Indians (Native American) sing and preach, (personally) that is not the most interesting language, not listening to a native American sermon again...and I'm part native American!

Irish or Scottish style can get you in trouble, I listen to Irish hymns and Scottish hymns on my Kindle Fire HD, I listen to that more than any other kind.

I was kinda startled by Jims link "Exposing Hidden Anti-Semitism in the Church" that's why I put the ,"I hope I'm not being accused of Anti Semitism"

I hope that makes some sense, maybe I'm blabbering, well I'll at least say something edifying, Ligonier has a $5 Friday deal, you can start shopping now, there's about 59 products available for $5 each, I got three and it cost me altogether $15, I think Florida has free shipping in the U.S.A.

Because when someone, a Christian, will say, "Hey, I don't see any scripture to support alter calls." What happens? Everyone will think, "This guy is not conservative, he's not wanting people to be saved he's making it harder."