John UK wrote:
Thank you Tony...

I Would Just As Soon Listen To & Get MORE Sound Holy-Spiritual & Authorized-Biblical-Literal Discernment & Instruction From OUR Historic Orthodox Pentecostal Brethren; Then I Would From The "Reformed"-Roman-"Catholic"-Cultic Augustinian-"Replacement"-'Covenant-Theology', A-millenialism, Only-One-General-Resurrection-Heresy & Radical-Allegoricism That I Would Get From You, "John UK", Or From ANY OTHER MISGUIDED, HISTORIC AUTHORIZED-BIBLICALLY IGNORANT, AND SATANIC-VATICAN "JESUIT(IC)" INSTRUCTED "BLIND GUIDES LEADING THE BLIND" !

John UK wrote:
I fail to see, Tony, how you manage to get two separate resurrections out of these verses...

"JESUS, When He Had Cried Again With A Loud Voice, Yielded Up The Ghost.

And Behold, The Veil In The Temple Was Rent In Twain From The Top To The Bottom, AND THE EARTH DID QUAKE AND THE ROCKS RENT;

AND THE GRAVES WERE OPENED, AND MANY BODIES OF THE SAINTS WHICH SLEPT AROSE,

AND CAME OUT OF THE GRAVES AFTER HIS (THE LORD JESUS CHRIST'S) RESURRECTION, AND WENT INTO THE HOLY CITY (JERUSALEM), AND APPEARED UNTO MANY.

Now When THE CENTURION, And THEY That Were With HIM, Watching JESUS, Saw

THE EARTHQUAKE, AND THOSE THINGS THAT WERE DONE, They Feared Greatly, Saying, TRUELY THIS WAS THE SON OF GOD."

MATTHEW 27:50-54 !

John UK wrote:
...What this means...is that there is a general resurrection of both Bible-believers and Bible-unbelievers...

One (1) "General Resurrection" For:

A. The Just (Righteous & Good) !

&

One (1) "General Resurrection" For:

B. The Unjust (Unrighteous & Evil) !

WE Already KNOW, According To THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED HOLY JUDEO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE SCRIPTURES (The KJV-B); That There Are SEVERAL GENERAL "RESURRECTIONS" MENTIONED & RECORDED: WHICH HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE; &-OR, WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE FUTURE--THE HOLY PRE-TRIBULATION / PRE-MILLENIAL "RAPTURE" OF THE "TRUE CHURCH" BEING JUST ONE OF THE MANY "GENERAL RESURRECTIONS" RECORDED--

The Future IMMINENT "GENERAL RESSURECTION" Of THE JUST Elect Saints & Church Of The Living God--The Pillar & Ground Of The Truth:

"FOR THE LORD HIMSELF SHALL DESCEND FROM HEAVEN WITH A SHOUT, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL AND THE TRUMP OF GOD; AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE FIRST:

Mike wrote:
Maybe Counter was getting ahead of himself. Maybe he didn't mean to say you voted for Obama, since Counter could not know this, but that you defended Obama before you discovered who he really was.

From Which Of My Previously Posted Comments Did I EVER Say Or Even Imply That I "defended Obama" ?

Produce It, "Mike" !

&-Or "PUT UP OR SHUT UP" Like The "Evil DECEIVER & LIAR 'Counter'" !

Readers & TRUE ELECT SAINTS Within & Without This Sermonaudio Website:

Know Ye Not That There Are Wicked, Vile, Spiritually-Sick & Unreasonable Men; Who Are Not Only Manipulating & Obstructing THIS Very Sermonaudio Website: But A Multitude Of OTHER SECULAR, "RELIGIOUS" & GENUINE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL-LITERALIST JUDEO-CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST & EVANGELICAL WEBSITES ON THE INTERNET, WORLD-WIDE-WEB & CYBERSPACE !

THEY'VE KEPT THE GENERAL U.S. & WORLD PUBLIC IN TOTAL &-OR PARTIAL IGNORANCE TO WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON "BEHIND CLOSED DOORS" !

WHERE'S THE ORIGINAL "BIRTH CERTIFICATE" ?

And The Answer STILL Remains:

OBAMA Won't Release IT--While Spending Over $2,000,000.00 In Legal Fees, Lawyer Loot & Court Lithigation PREVENTING The U.S. GENERAL PUBLIC THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD From EVER Seeing, Viewing, Inspecting &-Or Authenticating IT !

FACT #1:

OBAMA'S KENYAN GRANDMOTHER EYE-WITNESSED BABY-BARACK COMING OUT OF HIS MOTHER'S WOMB WHEN HE WAS BORN IN KENYA ! = VALID LEGAL WITNESS #1 ! ! !

FACT #2:

BABY-BARACK'S KENYAN 1/2 BROTHER & 1/2 SISTER ALSO EYE-WITNESSED LITTLE BABY-BARACK COMING OUT OF HIS MOTHER'S WOMB WHEN HE WAS BORN IN KENYA ! = VALID LEGAL WITNESSES #2 & #3 ! ! !

SO, HERE WE HAVE NOT JUST TWO (2)--BUT THREE (3) WITNESSES--TO THE FACT THAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WAS BORN IN THE AFRICAN NATION OF KENYA (& THEREFORE HE IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF KENYA):

NOT, I REPEAT, NOT BORN IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (& THEREFORE IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT, A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) !

FACT #3:

Counter wrote:
On these Sermonaudio forums on 11/9/08 3:09 PM.

Unless You Can Produce A DIRECT QUOTATION From TONY LOPEZ-CISNEROS On/From This Sermonaudio Website: With The Date, Time & EXACT Wording &-Or Verbage Said, Written Or Quoted--Will You EVER EVER Have A Leg To Stand On !

You, "Counter" Are Nothing But A DECEIVER & A LIAR:

PUT UP OR SHUT UP ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

***THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO READ, STUDY, KNOW, REJECT, REPROVE, REBUKE & REPUDIATE Evil "Counter" & The Satanic-Vatican "Jesuit(ic)s", Religious-New-World-Order-Ecumenists, Freemasons & Illuminatists Like Him & "Jim Lincoln" (Who Behind The Scenes Are Manipulating & Obstructing THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH; AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH From Freely Flowing On The Internet-Cyberspace-&-The-World-Wide-Web)--Who ALSO Have Attempted, In The Past & Present, To DISCREDIT & CHARACTER ASSASSINATE The KJV-B & RIGHTEOUS SAINTS OF ALMIGHTY GOD & THE LORD JESUS CHRIST LIKE:

DR.-BR. ALBERTO RIVERA

BR. JACK T. CHICK

DR.-BR. JACK F. HYLES

DR.-BR. IAN R.K. PAISLEY

DR.-BR. HENRY MORRIS

DR.-BR. JOHN R. RICE

BR. JOHN BARRIER

DR.-BR. BILL RICE

BR. JACK SCHAAP

Golden Mean wrote:
Tony; I defended your stance against Counter when he thought you were speaking against the KJV...

I, However, Know For A FACT What I've Said About "Counter" Is SO & STILL STANDS !

I Will NOT Tolerate A Personal Attack Upon Me That CANNOT Be Substantiated By Any & ALL Of My Previous "Words", "Deeds", "Actions" &-Or Even "Thoughts" !

I ESPECAILLY HATE, REJECT, OPPOSE & REPUDIATE ANY PERVERSIONS & MISQUOTES OR "WRESTING" OF MY WORDS: WHOM OTHERS MAY &-OR WILL USE AGAINST THE WAY, THE TRUTH & THE LIFE: AND-OR THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH; AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH !

I TAKE EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE SAID REGARDING THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED HOLY JUDEO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE SCRIPTURES & THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED ENGLISH KJV-B TRANSLATION VERY, VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY !

I WILL NOT TOLERATE MY VERY OWN WORDS TO BE ABUSED, MISUSED, MISQUOTED, "WRESTED", PERVERTED, AMMENDED, DELETED, ALTERED, HINDERED, MISREPRESENTED, MISINTERPRETED &-OR MISGUIDED BY ANYONE: BY ANY MEANS WHATSOEVER !

Quoth wrote:
"...I Am Become As Sounding Brass Or Tinkling Cymbal."

OR

Basically, "Quote" Is TELLING THE WHOLE WORLD THAT HE (OR SHE) "IS BECOME AS SOUNDING BRASS OR TINKLING CYMBAL" !

THEREFORE, "Quote" MUST REPENT; SO THAT HE OR SHE WILL NO LONGER BE A SOUNDING BRASS OR TINKLING CYMBAL !

Nevertheless, As I Was Saying In My Previous Post:

THAT, MAKING FULL PROOF OF OUR MINISTRIES, GIVEN TO US BY ALMIGHTY GOD & CHRIST HIMSELF, IS ONLY MADE OR MANIFESTED BY "DO(ING) THE WORK OF AN EVANGELIST":

&-OR BY OUR "SOUL-WINNING" OR SEEKING THE LOST & BRINGING THEM TO CHRIST:

"HE THAT GOETH FORTH, AND WEEPETH, BEARING PRECIOUS SEED; SHALL DOUBTLESS COME AGAIN WITH REJOICING: BRINGING HIS SHEAVES WITH HIM."

"FOR THE FRUIT OF THE RIGHTEOUS IS THE TREE OF LIFE; AND HE THAT WINNETH SOULS IS WISE."

WE "MAKE FULL PROOF OF [OUR] MINISTRY (OR MINISTRIES)" BY
"DO(ING) THE WORK OF AN EVANGELIST"; THAT IS, BY DOING THE WORK OF A "SOUL-WINNER":

WHICH IS WINNING & EVANGELIZING SOULS INTO THE KINGDOM OF OUR GREAT GOD & SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST !

AS GENERAL BOOTH SAID:

Jessica Dawson wrote:
Philippians 2:14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

I HAVE EVERY & ALL RIGHT AS A CHILD OF ALMIGHTY GOD & PREACHER OF THE AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL GOSPEL OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST TO:

"PREACH THE WORD; (TO) BE INSTANT IN SEASON, OUT OF SEASON; REPROVE, REBUKE AND EXHORT WITH ALL LONGSUFFERING AND DOCTRINE.

FOR THE TIME [HAS] COME WHEN THEY (THE PSEUDO-FUNDAMENTALISTS LIKE "Jim Lincoln, "Counter" & Their Ilk) WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE (THE SOUND DOCTRINE THAT THE KJV-BIBLE IS THE ONLY POPULARLY-PUBLISHED-PRESERVED WORD OF GOD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE 'TILL THE 2ND COMING OF CHRIST); BUT AFTER THEIR OWN LUSTS SHALL THEY HEAP TO THEMSELVES TEACHERS (DENYING THIS FACT), HAVING ITCHING EARS;

AND THEY SHALL TURN AWAY THEIR EARS FROM THE TRUTH (OF THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED ENGLISH KJV-BIBLE), AND SHALL BE TURNED UNTO FABLES (LIKE THE FRUITLESS FABLES THAT THE N.A.S.BULL-DUNG-"BIBLE" IS MORE ACCURATE, RELIABLE & BETTER THAN THE KJV-BIBLE).

BUT WATCH THOU IN ALL THINGS, ENDURE AFFLICTIONS, DO THE WORK OF AN EVANGELIST, MAKE FULL PROOF OF THY MINISTRY." 2 TIMOTHY 4:2-5

"THOUGH I (YOU Or "Counter") Speak With The Tongues Of Men And Of Angels, And Have Not Charity (LOVE), I Am Become As Sounding Brass Or Tinkling Cymbal.

And Though I Have The Gift Of Prophecy, And Understand All Mysteries, And All Knowledge; And Though I Have All Faith, So That I Could Remove Mountains, And Have Not Charity (LOVE), I Am Nothing.

And Though I Bestow All My Goods To Feed The Poor, And Though I Give My Body To Be Burned, And Have Not Charity (LOVE), It Profiteth Me Nothing.

Charity (LOVE) Suffereth Long, And Is Kind; Charity (LOVE) Envieth Not; Charity (LOVE) Vaunteth Not Itself, Is Not Puffed Up,

Doth Not Behave Itself Unseemly, Seeketh Not Her Own, Is Not Easily Provoked, Thinketh No Evil;

Rejoiceth Not In Iniquity, But Rejoiceth In THE TRUTH;

Beareth All Things, Believeth All Things, Hopeth All Things, Endureth All Things.

Charity (LOVE) Never Faileth: But Whether There Be Prophecies, They Shall Fail; Where There Be Tongues, They Shall Cease; Whether There Be Knowledge, It Shall Vanish Away...

And Now Abideth FAITH, HOPE, CHARITY (LOVE), THESE THREE; BUT THE GREATEST OF THESE IS CHARITY (LOVE)." I CORINTHIANS 13:1-13

Counter wrote:
Tony,
Despite your pretensions you are not God.

YOU ARE NOT GOD ! ! ! ! ! ! !

"YE ("Counter") ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO.

HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM.

WHEN HE SPEAKETH A LIE, HE SPEAKETH OF HIS OWN:

FOR HE IS A LIAR, AND THE FATHER OF IT.

Counter wrote:
You mean the last 18 months since the day YOU voted for him in spite of all the concerns being voiced by many many others?Did Michael Savage also echo YOUR vote? By no means!

Under The 'Table' Or Over The 'Table' ?

Or Is It That "Counter" Is In The Voting Booths Of EVERY U.S. Citizen On Election Day; And Knows EXACTLY Just How They Voted ?

Since When & Where Did Tony Lopez-Cisneros SAY He Voted For POSER "U.S. President" Barack Hussein Obama ?

Since When & Where Did Michael Savage SAY He Voted For POSER "U.S. President" Barack Hussein Obama ?

Since When & Where Did "Counter" SAY & DENY He/She Voted For POSER "U.S. President" Barack Hussein Obama ?

It Appears That "Counter" Is A DECEIVER & A LIAR [Maybe EVEN A Covert-Overt Satanic-Vatican "Jesuit(ic)" & Freemasonic-Illuminatist] To FALSELY ACCUSE Tony Lopez-Cisneros Of Supporting & Voting For POSER, QUACK, BOGUS, CHARLATAN, FAKE & PHONEY "U.S. PRESIDENT" BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA !

Then Maybe, Just Maybe, We'll REALLY Reject The Sodomite Smut Shoved Down Into Our Stomach's By McDonalds, Starbucks, Etc., Ect., Etc. !

Concerning The Historic Authorized Holy English Judeo-Christian Bible Scriptures (AKA THE KJV-Bible) VS The Un-historic Un-authorized UNHOLY English New.American.Standard.Bull-Dung-"Bible" :

"[WE] Have Not Yet Resisted Unto Blood Striving Against (That) SIN(Ful, Evil, Wicked, UNGODLY, ANTI-CHRISTIAN & PERVERTED N.A.S.B. 'Translation')."

HEBREWS 12:4 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

"THESE THINGS OUGHT [WE] TO HAVE DONE; AND NOT LEAVE THE OTHERS UNDONE."

BUT LOOK FOLKS & LET'S GET REAL ABOUT THIS:

IF THE SATANIC-VATICAN "JESUITS" & GLOBALIST ONE-WORLD "RELIGIOUS" FREEMASONS & ILLUMINATI CAN GET U.S. / WORLD-WIDE ENGLISH SPEAKING-COMMUNICATION PROTESTANT "FUNDAMENTALISTS" & EVANGELICALS TO SWALLOW THE FAKE, PHONEY, QUACK, BOGUS, CHARALATAN & POSER N(EW) A(MERICAN) S(TANDARD) B(ULL-DUNG) "BIBLE" & OTHER FALSE ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS & PERVERSIONS:

Cezar wrote:
This is a foreign company and should be dealt with differently. No new laws need to be implemented to hurt Americans or American companies.

Obama's IS A FOREIGN Presidency & Should Be Dealt With According To The U.S. CONSTITUTION: Which Is The HIGHEST & ULTIMATE LAW OF THE U.S.A. !

WHAT DAVID ICKE, TEXE MARRS, ALEX JONES, JASON BERMAS, BILL COOPER, BILL DEAGLE, ROBERT MORSE, ABRAHAM LINCOLN, CHARLES CHINIQUY, ALBERTO RIVERA, JACK T. CHICK, JOHN F. KENNEDY, ROBERT F. KENNEDY, ETC. & THE MULTITIDE OF OTHER WHISTLE-BLOWERS ON "THE GREAT CONSPIRACY" TO RELIGOUSLY & POLITICALLY CONTROL THE EARTH & ALL THE INHABITANTS THEREOF HAVE SAID--

ALONG WITH THEIR EXPOSEE IN THE ALTERNATIVE INTERNET-CYBESPACE-&-WORLD-WIDE-WEB MEDIA & PRESS--

NEEDS TO BE--SPIRIT, SOUL & BODY--PRAYFULLY & CAREFULLY READ; STUDIED; OBSERVED; PROMULGATED; PROPAGATED & PERPETUATED:

TO WARN THE PEOPLE ON PLANET EARTH OF THE IMPENDING DOOM THAT'S TO DAWN UPON US; IF WE DON'T RESIST & FIGHT THIS GLOBALIST CONSPIRACY, SCHEME, PLAN & PLOT OF "MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" !

San Jose John wrote:
I keep wondering just what might be on his birth certificate--other than showing him not to have been born in the USA--that would motivate him and his people to keep it under wraps.
Do birth certificates list god-parents' as well as parents' names? If so, perhaps his god-father or god-mother is some controverial person who's identity they don't want to reveal.
I heard Obama traveled as a kid with a US passport, which he couldn't get unless he was already a US citizen at a very young age (birth?). I guess we'll never know for sure unless/until we get to see the birth document itself.

OBAMA ATTENDED OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE--EVIDENTLY, VIA A FOREIGN-"EXCHANGE"-STUDENT LOAN--FROM HIS SPONSOR & FELLOW SOCIALIST-COMMUNIST: BILLIONAIRE FOUNDER & PRESIDENT OF OCCIDENTAL-OIL: ARMAND HAMMER !

ARMAND HAMMER (DECEASED) TROTTED THE "GLOBE" PUSHING & FINANCING STATE-CONTROLLED MARXISM, LENINISM, SOVIET-STYLE-SOCIALISM & COMMUNISM !

Because BOTH SIDES Are CONTROLLED By THE SATANIC-VATICANIST / ROMAN-"CATHOLIC"-CULTIC "JESUIT(IC)" FREEMASONIC-ILLUMINATI ONE-WORLD-RELIGION-GOVERNMENT GLOBALISTS !

THESE ONE-WORLD-GLOBALIST DEVILS INFILTRATED THE U.S. DEMOCRATIC PARTY DURING THE U.S. PRESIDENCY OF WOODROW WILSON; VIA THE SECRETLY-VOTED-UPON 1913-FEDERAL-RESERVE-ACT; & LATER MANIPULATED & GUIDED THE U.S. PRESIDENCY OF FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT INTO THEIR ILLUMINATI-GLOBALIST-SPAWNED WW II !

THEY HAD ALREADY PREVIOUSLY INFILTRATED THE U.S. REPUBLICAN PARTY DURING THE U.S. PRESIDENCY OF THEODORE ROOSEVELT; VIA THEIR SKULL-&-BONER "BOOB" U.S. VICE-PRESIDENT WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT: WHO LATER BECAME THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE U.S. SUPREME COURT !

DOES ANYONE STILL DOUBT THE NAZI, FASCIST, HITLERIAN & BIG-OIL-ROBBER-BARON TIES OF PRESCOTT BUSH, GHWB & GWB ?

I've Been Literally Shouting This "From The House Tops" On The Internet, Cyberspace & The "World-Wide-Web" !

Yet Millions Of U.S. Citizens & Americans STILL Have Their Heads In The Sand: Just Like The Proverbial Ostrich !

There Has Been A GREAT & STRONG DELUSION Created By The Satanic-Vaticanists & Roman-"Catholic" Cultic Luciferian Illuminati, Freemasons & "Jesuits"--Not To Mention The Foreign & Domestic "Bankers-Gangsters" (Ala The Rothchilds, The Rockefellers, The Pritzkers, Billionairess Opra Winfrey & Etc.); Who, Through The Globalist Trillionaire Big-Businesses & (BP) Oil Gluttons: Have Deceived & Subverted The U.S. Public & The Whole World About The TRUE Identity Of This FOREIGN INVASION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !

"And HE (CHRIST JESUS) Said Unto Them, Why Are Ye Fearful, O Ye Of Little Faith? Then HE Arose, And REBUKED The Winds AND THE SEA; And There Was A GREAT CALM." Matthew 8:26

"And HE Arose, And REBUKED The Wind, AND SAID TO THE SEA, Peace, Be Still. And The Wind Ceased, And There Was A GREAT CALM." Mark 4:39

"And THEY (THE APOSTLES) Came To HIM, And Awoke HIM, Saying, MASTER, MASTER, WE Perish. Then HE Arose, And REBUKED The Wind AND THE RAGING OF THE WATER: And THEY Ceased, And There Was A CALM." Luke 8:24

"And In The Fourth Watch Of The Night JESUS Went Unto THEM (THE APOSTLES), WALKING ON THE SEA.

And When The Disciples Saw HIM WALKING ON THE SEA, They Were Troubled, Saying, It Is A Spirit; And They Cried Out For Fear." Matthew 14:25-26 & John 6:19