Hmmm, Tony rages and calls people liars and his satanic hate speech remains, yet I simply list his very own lies and that he himself is the liar, and my post is removed.
John, I believe Fritz Springmeier goes into devil possession, mind control, and multiple personalities. I can't remember for sure as it's been awhile, but I do recall for sure that his work is rather disturbing.
Born again, I hope you truly are! Though I do believe "the rod" doctrine is false, those that adhere to it seem in my opinion to have the desire to serve the Lord faithfully, unlike so many others. There's a brother I knew a few years ago that ended up accepting this teaching, so I did look into it. I don't think I have any bias because I do not desire to try and live a sinful life as close to the world as possible while still being found worthy of eternal life. So after learning a bit about the doctrine I just couldn't be convinced that it is scriptural. I read the battles between Joey and Herb Evans (I believe that's his name), reviewed some of the material at the kingdombaptist site, and read other forum debates as well. I eventually let the matter go because I didn't think serious involvement was worth my time.
Yes exactly - the so-called church today is the state's biggest fan and supporter, and will swiftly sic antichrist on all that do not conform to and comply with the social order. Leonard Verduin wrote a great work in this regard, yet he did not realize that the established form of religion that was brought to God's land called America was statism. I marvel how the state through his octopus bureaucracy that is sprawled across the entire earth, being "all in all," can capture the unconditional faith of the majority, thinking either that he the state is God or that those comprising the bureaucracy are God's servants whereby all must obey or perish!
And, you'll do well to take the recommended advice to Tony and Jessica.
Further, the true church cannot grow in this land because when God's people are slaughtered or imprisoned the hasty, judgmental response that the propaganda machine implants is that Antichrist is right and whosoever is wrong. And God's persecuted children don't even get a prayer, and if they do it's that God will bring repentance to that individual for defying Antichrist!
What's a man of straw? You judged Neil! Face it. Kent's obedience to Christ and defiance of Antichrist is based on what has been revealed by the Holy Spirit, and YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY OTHERWISE!!
Jessica, I provided plenty of helpful links to assist you with your false assumptions and judgments, and I will guess that you haven't bothered to even glance at any of them, and then you go ahead and make another comment trying to prove that the people of God are to give homage and allegiance to the adversarial system that sets itself up as God, utilizing carnal weapons to ensure compliance to its grievous demands based on nonsensical, gibberish so-called laws.
"and this is NOT that situation."
And who is man, Neil, to come between another man and the Lord, in order to judge what and what doesn't violate his conscience?
He doesn't answer questions. Reminds me of those direct agents of the state (cops, "judges," etc.) that get so irritated and upset when you ask questions in order to truly understand something, because, as those evildoers like to say, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse." But, of course, nobody knows what "The Law" is! And that's why we can clearly determine without a doubt that the judicial sect of the state is nothing but antichrist. We can also clearly see that "The Court" is nothing but a religious ceremony.