I wouldn't have went into office with a mass murderer in the first place!
We are forced into an office and political government that the rest of the UK are not ask to do!I believe its called the "de hunt form of government".
I don't deny anyone the vote,in fact those criminals had the vote 40years ago,and still chose to bomb and murder us into a republic,and as we see from the news daily,they are still at it!.
Have an other read what I said about christians in government in my last post.
As u will see,the Doc has not used his christian influence at all,he has in fact denied any christian morals,by not speaking out about the sodomites,and also money coming from HIS office to take HIS own church to court on behalf of those sodomites!,now what sort of christian stand is that?NONE.
If u say God told u to go into power with evil that good may come,well u had better come up with chapter and verse,but all we see is the Doc sucking up to terrorists and the papish church,why even this week he said of a certain papish woman having a great faith,and mark my words,he will meet the pope or have a representative meet him.

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Im of for some Egyptian PT,so,GNAGBABAC

Take note richie,that "he" is a minister,the Doc is only a joint minister,not "the" minister,and still you can't give me scripture for a christian to do evil that good MIGHT come!
Civil government is not morally and spiritually neutral and is not independant from the word of God!
We have not heard from him of any indication that he was against laws or resisting the implementation of of those laws in favour of homosexual behaviour.
"We ought to obey God rather than men"
As a christian his first obligation is to uphold the law of God as the standard of right and wrong in the public office!
Also haven did what he did in his office in taking his own church to court,and not taking Gods stand with them,means he participated in rebellion against the laws of God.
Thus bringing the name of God into disrepute.
Its a good job our God is a forgiving God

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Wayne m
He is in a joint office,he can't do or say anything without the say so of the mass murderer from derry and chuckle brother martin.
When you say God appointed you to the political office,then I wan't to know where God said for him to go into office with someone who he wouldn't go in with,only"over his dead boady"!.
After years of preaching separation from evil,he now sees fit to walk hand and hand with those who murdered,and by the way are still murdering!.
Taking his own church to court to defend sodomites is a bit of an about face to,but no mater,he will see in the next elections how many votes there for him and his party,his church elders and ministers haven't the guts to stand up to him,thats why the free church has lost its force against evil in this place,cause they showed they are just as bad when their members take political office and disregard Gods laws and morals!
btw,just watch when he invites the pope in for tea for he never said he wouldn't meet the pope when ask!.
as for him being a christian first minister,he can do nothing,as he is in a ninority in that respect he can only do,when his other half gives the nod

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Lance
He also said the new covenant was in His blood,so was it? and He will no more drink the fruit of this vine,were was the fruit at the time He was talking about?
and btw,still not found who ur church says those verses are talking about?,I'L GIVE YOU A CLUE,JESUS CHRIST,so therefore,what does that mean,yip thats right,mary could not be the mother of God but if u come up with an other person those verses are talking about,I'm willing to investigate,but I doubt you will.

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If any one can show me from the bible where God says its all right to do evil that good might come,then I will believe what the Doc has done is biblical!
But as u can't all I can do is watch the chuckle brothers going to tickle the belly of an other none believer who says his god is the same as the muslims,an evil moon ilah

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GG
Is that new covenant in his blood?or was His blood shed in JOHN 6?,or at the last supper?
So come on when do we drink this shed blood,covenant?
The sacraficial priesthood was done away with by Christ,so the mass is a blasphemy

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If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned."A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine." Maybe this is why beef exports aren't a booming business for Islamic countries.
the above is a fatwah from that great cleric of islam Ayatollah Khomeini,what would this evil man have done to men,woman,boys and girls if that was what he was doing with animals A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister."This is an other of his insights of what his god allows,sick sick sick,and they say people are turning to islam

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Its also a reliablbe history book to

So,what does that mean?
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Lance
Trying to say I have said something heretical will not work,as you know there are many tulip men on this site would gladly tackle someone for making such a statement,so come on don't be shy,WHO are those verses talking about?
If its JESUS own up,if its not,then who is it.
You must have tryed to see what your church tells you about those verses and couldn't find any,or they have said what the verses are and only can say,it was JESUS OUR LORD
I have shown you proof that mary cannot be the mother of God,and all you can do is make an evil accusation against the truth,Oh well what do you expect from someone who believes the lies and nonesense of liguori and his EVIL church

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Lance
Ok answer these questions(1)I Gen 1-26,and Gen 11-7,Gen 18,who is these verses speaking about,and in Gen 18,who is talking to abraham?.
(2)Who was Melchizedek Gen 14-18,Heb 7-1=3.
Thats just 2 from the old,but here is two from the new testament(JN 1-4,who is these verses talking of,JN 8-58,did Jesus say he came before Abraham or not?
Now you are are the people that say his body came down from heaven,thats why you use JN 6,as for eating His flesh even your other Rascal GG believes that.
Just to give you a bit of knowledge mary was only the bearer of a body for God to take,as he had to come and be born as we have,live like us,be subject to the same things we have been,but in all things did not sin like us,as the bible says,"by the law".
GoD was always God,Christ WAS always God,the Holy Spirit was always God.
You have denied Jesus being God by saying Mary was the maker and mother of God.
There is not one note in this book from a pope,only from liguuri himself saying about the fables he uses,but even saying its in obedience to a pope is shocking,and no mater,its just a bunch of lies,ascribing the attrabutes of God to a woman

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You don't need to ask a church about what scripture actually says!

Yeh Lance ,just like the life of liguori and the lies he told in the glories of mary giving her the attributes of God,btw,you still have not answered those quetions about who the verses in scripture are speaking about,is it because it proves your mary is not the mother of God?,answer the questions

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no use waiting for an answer,as it might take another week,so he can find out what the papish church thinks of those verses first

So,Im of for some Egyptian PT,GNAGBABAB

Lance/GG
The next time you come on and try to say mary is the mother of God,just think back to the time you wouldn't or couldn't answer my questions on who the verses in the old and new testament were speaking about.
Your getting like the muslims,nothing but lies and tradition to cover your churches false teachings.

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GG
At least I don't make up stories to cover praying to and making up lies about mary,or believe the lies written about her by heretics.
Believe the bible,and what is in it as Gods Word,by the way,I was checking up on the apoc books,and there a afew that even your papist church won't believe and we know that what they do believe even the eastern chutrch don't believe them

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Now no name calling GG

GG
Not been able to find anything in the bible about Jesus Christ loaning anything to mary yet,is that why you have reverted to that old papish ploy of name calling when you cant find any lies in Gods word to back your lies about mary tut tut
Thank the Lord I don't have to rely on what man has said,and the doctrine of Intention should just about kill of the lies about mary also

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Ah well,Im of for some good old Egyptian PT,so,GNAGBABAB

Lance
The last time I read my bible,it was Jesus Christ who is the intercessor between God and Man so it still doesn't say mary can save,how about some more of that old nonesense from the hand of a son of the devil,"st anselm,for instance;"just as it is impossible for persons to be SAVED who have know devotion to mary".
I have lots more from that stupid papish book if you want.

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GG
Must heve missed that bit in the bible where Jesus tells mary that he is loaning something of His to her,could you give me the chapter and verse please,acually Im a bit pink not orange,and in the summer I might go a lovely tan colour

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Mary said yes GG HER words were"behold the hand maid of the Lord;be it unto me according to thy word.
Must have been every virgins dream at that time.Ish 7-14,9-6.
No way could She just refuse the Lords word...but not like you GG,you deny it on here all the time

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I believe the Apostles,not a church and a people lorded over by men in skirts who have been found to be some of the worst munsters in history,but then again with that old DOCTRINE OF INTENTION GG,you can't nor will ever know if you even have a church as for liguori,he has been backed by the church in saying its all right to tell lies as a papist,has it been that long since I posted you the evidence that you have forgot already
What about this bucket of dung from the same book,"st ignatius the "martyr"said this,No sinner can be saved except through your help and favour,O virgin mary;for those who would otherwise be damned through Gods justice are shown mercy and are saved through your intercession".Tell us GG is that load of nonesense lies? or can mary save?and where and who did she tell it to that she can save souls?
Now try the bible,for it will take a life time to read anything like that from the papish web sites

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Then move to the vatican Lance or maybe thats were you are already

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