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 3/31/08 3:43 AM |
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JD wrote:
We must witness if we want to see those He died for become His sheep.
______ So goats become sheep, then if they lose their salvation they become goats again? Tares become wheat, darkness turns itself into light and the dead in sin rise from the dead by making a decision. Where have I heard all this bullsquash before? That's right - same place same people. |
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 3/17/08 11:39 PM |
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And yet there are so many who cannot see that the Papacy is the Antichrist and the Pope is that man of sin. Did not the Spirit expressly say that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons (Mariolatry, prayer to saints, purgatory etc), speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry (celibacy) and commanding to abstain from foods (Lent etc). How people can read their Bibles with their eyes so closed to the truth is amazing. The man of sin, who exalts himself above all that is called God (holy father/great highpriest/vicar of Christ), or that is worshipped (Catholics worship the Pope)sits as God in the temple of God (in the church). He is the very opposite of Christ, a veritable anti Christ, yet even evangelicals like that apostate Billy Graham have bowed the knee to him and kissed his hand. When will we wake up?!? |
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| 3/16/08 11:17 PM |
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Discerning Believer wrote:
Icon O Clast,
On the same token, does one who believes only 3 or 4 points of Calvinism still a Calvinist?
Or does he have to hold all 5 points to be a Calvinist. I have never known anyone who called him/herself a Calvinist who only believed 3 or 4 of the points. To understand this one must know how the points support each other. Total Depravity means all our faculties are bent only towards evil. If this is true then none left in this state would be saved. So God needs to choose whom He wants to save. On what basis does He choose? They are all gone astray and all hate God and none seek good. So there is no other condition than the pleasure of His will. Did Christ then die for them only or also for those God did not choose? That would mean He paid for something He did not get. But those whom God chose, can they resist the regenerating power of His Holy Spirit? No more than Lazarus could resist the command of Christ to rise and come out of the grave. Once God has regenerated those whom He unconditionally elected will they once again die spiritually and thus be lost? God forbid, those whom He elects will be glorified. Do you see how you either take all 5 points or reject all 5? To hold to OSAS is nonsensical in the extreme |
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| 3/15/08 8:17 AM |
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The Church is of Israel wrote:
Recall that (1) the Old Covenant was a covenant of marriage, (2) Israel was divided in twain, and (3) the Northern Kingdom was divorced; this is the origin of the "nations" or "gentiles" (from the Latin GENTILIS, which is the exact equivalent of the Greek ETHNOS). The Southern Kingdom remained in the marriage relationship; these are the "Jews".
The prophets foretold the reunion of the SK and the NK, with both being brought into the marriage relationship of the New Covenant. The restoration of Israel is fulfilled in the Church, which is composed exclusively of the literal, physical descendants of Israel.
But in the eyes of God, not all Israelites of the flesh are part of Israel; unbelievers are excluded. Accordingly, the Church is termed the "Israel of God". Not a lot of that makes sense mate, and some of it sounds a bit curly. The church is made up exclusively of lieteral, physical descendants of Israel? In the eyes of God the only true Israel has only ever been those who were in Christ, the remnant of election in the OT and the Church in the NT. They form one body, which is the true Israel. ALL who are of faith, both OT and NT saints, are true descendants of Abraham and heirs according to the promise. |
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| 3/14/08 5:36 PM |
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Again it comes down to this idea of "choosing" and again the issue is confused. KK says "So many love darkness rather than light." It is in that statement that you find the basis for the choice. Men choose that which they love, that which appeals to them, that which they are attracted to, that which they understand and can relate to. In all of the above, God does not feature. By nature we do not love God, He does not appeal to us, we are not attracted to Him, we do not understand Him and we cannot relate to Him. The John 3 text which everyone quotes to demonstrates a love of God which is almost universal, also contains truths which many conveniently forget. Those that do not believe are condemned already! This means that ALL of mankind is condemnded for by nature no one believes. The elect are redeemed from out of a condemned race and the others are left in their state of condemnation to bear God's wrath, hatred and vengeange which they deserve. The elect are saved, not because they deserve it, but because of God's love and mercy. This is grace and if you do not understand that you have not yet begun to understand grace. If you are saved because you chose to, then grace has ceased to exist because somewhere you deserved it. |
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| 3/13/08 4:41 AM |
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Observation Post wrote:
"How Were Old Testament Saints Saved?"
Luk 10:25-28 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. And he, not knowing that the law was not there to show how we can save ourselves, but to show how we are not able to please God said, "All these I have kept from my youth!" Then Jeuss, knowing full well that he had done no such thing but was lost in sin and misery said, "You still lack one thing" - that is, the one thing every human being lacks; a Saviour! So get rid of that which prevents you from coming to me, your position and your possessions and then follow that Saviour.
By the deeds of the law shall NO FLESH be justified.
There one God and One Mediator between God and man.
Here endeth the lesson. |
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| 3/12/08 8:13 PM |
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Mr. J wrote:
If you do a proper exegesis of the two parallel texts which speak on Psalms, Hymns and Spiritual songs you come to the conclusion that they speak of Psalms, Psalms and Psalms. OT Psalms was the only hymnbook the OT church knew and one of the saddest days in the history of the Protestant church waw when the Psalms were thrown out with the bathwater. How do you get Psalms, Psalms and Psalms from "Psalms, hymns and spiritual songs?" That doesn't make sense to me.After the Passover feast it says they sang a hymn. Also the apostles in prison were singing praise unto God. Revelations, among other places, talks about a new song. So are you saying these all mean Psalms? I don't think so mate! |
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| 3/12/08 1:49 AM |
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JD wrote:
The westminsters and the divines and many of the reform writers are your enemies and you are duped into thinking they are your friends and you are trying to cover for centuries of perverted doctrines and you have not had to deal with someone like me that requires you to prove your errors while giving you the truth at the same time. JD, I get the same garbology from the JW's and other extra-Biblical apostasy peddlers who also think, just like you, that ALL before them were corrupt heretics. Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, Knox, Hodge, Murray, Berkhof, Hendriksen, Owen, Lee, Krabbendam - they are all idiots or deliberate Bible corrupters. Darby, now HE was a saint, and Scofield, He saved the church from the perversions of the Reformers. Sorry JD, but there hasn't been a Dispensational theologian of note since Walvoord gave up trying, and Gentry and Chilton have nailed your coffin shut. So stop making out you are some sort of orthodox hero trying to save us from the perversions of the Reformers and Puritans - because you, mate, are the one following the fruitcakes from the Scofield camp. You guys have butchered the Bible long enough and it is high time you stopped this double-visioned nonsense. It is a blight on all Christ died for. |
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