[URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/newevangelicalism.htm]]]NEW EVANGELICALISM AND BIBLE VERSIONS[/URL] encapsulates a number of the apostate 'arguements' that White uses in attempting to belittle Henry Morris' position on the fact that the best English Bible is the Authorised bible.
Of course, the TNIV must be used as the update of the now outdated NIV by anyone who would rely on the 'scholarship' of THOSE experts. And the gender neutering of all of the New Age Bible versions is based on modern english usage. Women who are using 'modern' english standards are outraged by even the older NIV use of the word 'man', so anyone who goes down the path of 'we must make the bible conform to modern American english standards' will end up with the latest TNIV type perversion. [URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/articles/logsdon.htm]]]Version Translation Project -The Testimony of a Man Who Helped Organize the New Version Translation Project [/URL] Those who use the NASB need to copy this off and append it to their NASB to be honest.
[URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/questionsanswered.htm]]]QUESTIONS ON THE BIBLE VERSION ISSUE ANSWERED Don't Miss This Site![/URL] [URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/otimothy/tl020003.htm]]]The Authorised Bible is Dependable[/URL] By Dr. Donald A. Waite
[URL=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/niv_and_%20nasb_are_same_bibles_as_nwt.htm]]]NIV and NASB are the same bibles as the J Ws[/URL] [URL=http://home.sprynet.com/~eastwood01/kjv04.htm]]]Let's Compare Bibles[/URL] [URL=http://home.sprynet.com/~eastwood01/kjv02.htm#stop2]]]Questions for the KJV Critics [/URL] Since you're smart enough to find "mistakes" in the KJV, why don't you correct them all and give us a perfect Bible?
Since you do believe in the degeneration of man and in the degeneration of the world system in general, why is it that you believe education has somehow "evolved" and that men are more qualified to translate God's word today than in 1611?
Why should anyone take seriously the recommendation of BOTH the NASB and the NKJV in the same breath, as they are from entirely different Greek texts?
[URL=http://www.ctmin.org/pdf/newagebibleversions.pdf]]]New Age Bible Versions- good summary of difference[/URL]
[URL=http://theshepherdsvoice.org/kjv/a_comparison_of_the_kjv_nasb.html]]]NASB vs the Authorised Bible [/URL]
The NASB along with numerous other modern translations, is a product of Catholicism, endeavoring to corrupt the Bible of fundamental Bible believing Protestants
Mike wrote: anybody who votes for a socialist... is really stupid.
FROM my link below- "Obama was trained by the Alinsky-founded Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) in Chicago and worked for an affiliate of the Gamaliel Foundation, whose modus operandi for the creation of ‚Äėa more just and democratic society‚Äô is rooted firmly in the Alinsky method. As The Nation magazine puts it, ‚ÄėObama worked in the organizing tradition of Saul Alinsky, who made Chicago the birthplace of modern community organizing...‚Äô In fact, for several years Obama himself taught workshops on the Alinsky method.
But Obama brought a special slant to Alinsky‚Äôs radicalism.Far from being ‚Äď as he has been painted ‚Äď a ‚Äėpost-racial‚Äô politician,Obama‚Äôs politics are all about promoting the cause of black people and achieving ‚Äėreparations‚Äô from white society (a perspective through which his whole welfare redistribution agenda is framed).Accordingly, he saw his three-year role as a community organiser in Chicago as mobilising black people for action against their white oppressors.Finding himself hampered in creating an activist network among black churches, he decided to join such a church to give himself more credibility. That‚Äôs why he joined the infamous black-power Trinity Church..."
hidemi williges wrote: the entertainment industry is full of sexual immorality.
It ALSO shouldn't come as any big surprise considering that the EVANGELICAL PREACHING `industry' is full of PROMOTERS of sexual immorality such as Tony Campolo. [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=325082143303]]]Tony Campolo: Ambassador of Sodom[/URL]
Many are under the influence of the modern youth group fads- led by Campolo and his ilk. The future church is going to be a Sodomite Church if we don't take a stand against the false prophets of Gomorrah.
Tony Campolo is leading young seekers, as well as older novices, into apostasy. He preaches a bloodless Gospel with no regeneration. He attacks the infallibility of Scripture. And he is working to lead churches into union with Sodom. One of many `Evangelical' self-appointed Ambassador of Sodom.
Campolo is one of the leaders of asking [URL=http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php/3955/Brannon-Howse/By-Shane-Idleman]]]why focus on just 2 issues- Sodom and Baby murder?[/URL] ,to get the focus off where the battle rages, and dissipate the energy of believers onto 'global warming' and other goofy issues.
Listen to the Campolo expose' - it helps explain Bolz's environment.
Da kine -Versatile word used to replace words that can't be remembered or are unknown while you are speaking. Can literally mean anything and everything. [URL=http://www.dakine.net/hawaii/culture/dictionary-pidgin.shtml]]]just kidding[/URL]
"Kine"- not that old a usage, as RV and ASV use it the Revised Version (British and American) "kine" in Genesis 41:2-27; 1 Samuel 6:7-14; Amos 4:1; in Genesis 32:15
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/langKJB.html]]]Old-fashioned Language of the King James Bible [/URL] [There is an book called, ‚ÄúArchaic Words and the Authorized Version‚ÄĚ, by Laurence M. Vance. In it Mr. Vance shows how most of the so-called archaic words in the KJB are not archaic at all but are found in modern magazines, newspapers, and dictionaries. There are only about 200 words usually picked out by critics of the KJB, yet of the approximately 800,000 words in the Bible this is only .004 % of the total.
Vance also shows many examples of words in the modern versions which most people would have to look up in a dictionary. A long list is in the link above. Funny that I can put together the phrase from the KJB which says; "The very sad green giant was hungry‚ÄĚ and in the NIV it would be: ‚ÄúThe overweening dejected verdant Nephilim was famished." ]
appropriate listening here on SA- [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=5260810241010]]]Sodomites at the door again...[/URL] The march of sodomy continues &will continue in the foreseeable future. ...important for Christians to gain a wider biblical and historical view of empires and city states that fell into the sodomite lifestyle. Swanson gives a brief history of the few periods in history where homosexuality &sodomite `marriage' made it out of the closet and gained a little social approval. He also takes a look at the attempts to synthesize the Christian church with the sodomite lifestyle including the recent attempts at drawing distinctions between homosexuality and homosexualism. ...there is a solution to the onslaught of homosexuality & the inevitable attempts to persecute Christians who oppose it.
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=112071541486]]]Sodomites Are Not Saints & Saints Are Not Sodomite[/URL]
1Jo 2:19They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Rom 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
sexist CoE? [URL=http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/darwin-taught-male-superiority]]]Darwin Taught Male Superiority[/URL] Jerry Bergman, Phds "Less widely known is the fact that many evolutionists, including Darwin, taught that women were both biologically and intellectually inferior to men. This degrading view of women rapidly spread to Darwin‚Äôs scientific and academic contemporaries during the late Victorian period and heavily influenced many theorists who had a major role in shaping the following generation‚ÄĒfrom Sigmund Freud to Havelock Ellis. Evelleen Richards concludes that Darwin‚Äôs views about women logically followed from his theory, ‚Äúthereby nourishing several generations of scientific sexism.‚ÄĚ Importantly, as a result of Darwin‚Äôs ideas, scientists were inspired to use biology to build support for the position that women were ‚Äúmanifestly inferior and irreversibly subordinate‚ÄĚ to men, thus impacting all of society. Darwinian thinking supported the idea that men were superior to women, which was already within many cultures. Darwin simply gave credence to this unbiblical teaching." in contrast to the Bible's GAL 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. "
kenny wrote: Who in the world would you trust to do it? The guys who created the mess that is the New King James version? No thanks.
Henry M. Morris was asked to be on the New King James project, considered it, and rejected it saying-- [URL=http://www.icr.org/home/resources/resources_tracts_kjv/]]]Honor the Lord and His Word by[/URL] "having it read and used in that form of our language which was in use when the English language was at its best, instead of in our modern jargon" .. "so what if it does not sound like a modern newspaper or novel? His Word should be distinctly different from that in some current novel or newspaper. I believe, therefore, after studying, teaching, and loving the Bible for over 55 years, that Christians--especially creationists!--need to hang on to their old King James Bibles as long as they live. God has uniquely blessed it in the history of England and America, in the great revivals,in the worldwide missionary movement,and in the personal lives of believers more than He has through all the rest of the versions put together. The King James Bible is the most beautiful, the most powerful,and(I strongly believe)the most reliable of any that we have or ever will have, until Christ returns." Henry M. Morris, ICR.org
[URL=http://www.covenantnews.com/rudd060607.htm]]]Execute Sodomites[/URL] Civil officials have a God ordained duty to execute sodomites. The word of God commands, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Lev.20:13). Have we not been taught that homosexuality is an abomination (Lev.18:22). And those who engage in homosexuality are so vile that their very presence defiles the land and its inhabitants (Lev.18:25-28). This sodomite defilement brings eternal damnation upon all who approve of homosexuality (Rom.1:32, 13:2) and brings God's righteous judgment of punishment and death on the society as a whole (Gen.19:24-25, II Pet.2:6). The Magistrate, in his proper role, "beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil" (Rom.13:4). Since Magistrates have such a sure Biblical mandate to protect the innocent people in society by using the sword to execute sodomites (he that doeth evil), why then, are Christians encouraging civil officials to ignore the commandments of God concerning homosexuality? In a just society,with the stigma of sodomy as felony, Bolz could not promote his filth.
Faithful Remnant- "It all boils down to how big of a God we serve.Did He have the power and desire to preserve the word in written form for us today,so that we are not left in the dark concerning what is the word of God?Is His power so weak or His Divine purpose so unsure, that we must now search out all the manuscripts, all the Hebrew and Greek texts, and all the versions, in order to say that we do have the word of God mixed in with all the errors.If we are reduced to this state, may the Lord help us, for we are in absolute confusion unmatched in human history.If we are still looking for the word of God, and do not have an infallible Bible,it should be obvious to all,that we never will have such a Bible. This means that God has not kept His promise, and where do we stand, if we have such a God?
Regarding the practical outworking of the doctrine of the preservation of God's words,the modern version proponents either believe the true words of God are "out there somewhere" in all the variant manuscripts but we are not sure which ones they are;or they reduce "preservation" to the idea that the general,overall message is in all "reliable translations",though the particular words and numbers,many whole verses and the meaning of much of Scripture remains uncertain or even lost."
[URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fbcdarks.htm]]]New Version Corruption shown[/URL] the corruptions of God's wordS in critical texts such as the NAS that Jim pushes [URL=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NASV/nasv_vs_kjb.htm]]]Nas compared to the Authorised Bible[/URL] [URL=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NASV/new_american_standard_version_exposed.htm]]]Nas Exposed as Corrupt[/URL] [URL=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NASV/nasv-deity.htm]]]Nas vs Deity of Christ[/URL]
Pushing the false doctrine that God does NOT [URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fbcdarks2.htm]]]providentially preserve[/URL] His wordS. Jim, Does your FINAL AUTHORITY exist on earth today in pure, inerrant, tangible form in any language? If yes, what and where is it? And if no, why not?
Dr. Bill Grady said it best in his excellent book, Final Authority... ‚ÄúWescott and Hort, were a pair of unsaved liberals whose open Vatican sympathies cast them as the consummate Jesuit plants" Westcott and Hort took two waste Catholic Sources (the Sinaiticus and the Vaticanus) to produce their waste version of the Bible, They knew they could not bring anyone back into the bondage of Catholicism as long as true believers had a pure bible.
Obama's Moslem [URL=http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/print.php?&ArticleID=3887]]]birth& upbringing[/URL] HIS previous 'church' allowed Islamic Faith full members: [URL=http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm]]]`Muslim members in our church'[/URL] B.O. "[URL=http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971/page/2]]]raised in Muslim culture [/URL] " & went to a school that taught him Islam/Koran And he campaigned for someone who [URL=http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080524133234AAc95vN]]]supports SHARIA[/URL] [URL=http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin]]]Obama prays "with 1st class accent"[/URL] And BO says the sound of Moslem prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on earth" "Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it‚Äôll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ‚Äúone of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.‚ÄĚ
though, he has other affiliations-- [URL=http://www.spectator.co.uk/print/melaniephillips/2073071/revolution-you-can-believe-in.thtml]]]Is he Luciferian?[/URL] Alinsky,his mentor,liked Lucifer, so he might lean that way
Obama's muslim connections are clear to anyone-[URL=http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/print.php?&ArticleID=3887]]]Obama's being born and raised a Moslem[/URL] REGARDLES of the cover up of his Moslem birth-such as [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25808]]]Obama's Fake Birth Certificate[/URL] & updated 8/8/8 : [URL=http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71763]]] Obama's birth facts unknown[/URL] As Obama's previous 'church' allowed keeping Islamic Faith to full members: [URL=http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm]]]`many Muslim members in our church'[/URL] B.O. "[URL=http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971/page/2]]]was raised in Muslim culture [/URL] " &went to a RCC school that taught him Islam/Koran And he campaigned for someone who [URL=http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080524133234AAc95vN]]]supports SHARIA[/URL] [URL=http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin]]]and Obama prays "with 1st class accent"[/URL] And BO says the sound of Moslem prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on earth" scribed by Nicholas D. Kristof & cited later at [URL=http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/barack-obama/2007/03/10/]]]Muslim Obama roots[/URL]
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=9140822677]]]Why should God bless America if they are guilty of the same lies and atrocities that are mentioned in the Bible as bring Judgment against Israel and other nations of the past[/URL] This Live Radio broadcast covers many scriptures in the book of Hosea.
The book of Hosea applies to modern U.S.
Do you want to see similarities between Ephraim and Israel and America and what is called by some 'western Civilization' Listen in..
Who should God judge more-- the Muslim infidels or the so called Christian west?
The Hindu Idol worshipers or the Church going liars?
Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Rom 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. Rom 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. Rom 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. Rom 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
I think that it is wrong for any Catholic man to REMAIN a Catholic man until priests are allowed to get married. &wrong for any Catholic woman to REMAIN a Catholic woman until nuns are allowed to get married.(besides other things)
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 1Ti 4:6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained. 1Ti 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness. 2Co6:17-18 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you...
[URL=http://www.spectator.co.uk/print/melaniephillips/2073071/revolution-you-can-believe-in.thtml]]]Obama NOT `one of us'- trained by Lucifer emulating Marxist-Saul Alinsky[/URL] Obama‚Äôs connection with Alinsky, whom he never met but whom he reportedly idolised, was through two bodies promoting the Alinsky model of community organisation, ACORN and the Gamaliel Foundation. John Perazzo again: Obama was trained by the Alinsky-founded Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) in Chicago and worked for an affiliate of the Gamaliel Foundation, whose modus operandi for the creation of ‚Äėa more just and democratic society‚Äô is rooted firmly in the Alinsky method. As The Nation magazine puts it, ‚ÄėObama worked in the organizing tradition of Saul Alinsky, who made Chicago the birthplace of modern community organizing...‚Äô In fact, for several years Obama himself taught workshops on the Alinsky method.
Obama‚Äôs questionable links to various radicals are now well-known: the black power racists Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Fr. Michael Pfleger, the former Weather Underground terrorism supporters Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn. On CNN‚Äôs Glenn Beck show a few days ago Jerome Corsi, author of Obama Nation, observed: Obama began his career, his coming out party in 1995, aT Ayers and Bernadine Dorn's home.
[URL=http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2073071/revolution-you-can-believe-in.thtml]]]Obama a disciple of Alinsky who admirers Lucifer [/URL] Sarah Palin took a swipe at Obama for being a ‚Äėcommunity organiser‚Äô. Obama's job description's from Alinsky's book ‚ÄėRules for Radicals‚Äô dedicated to Lucifer, the ‚Äėfirst radical‚Äô--for whom ‚Äėchange‚Äô was the mantra. And by ‚Äėchange‚Äô, he meant a Marxist revolution achieved by slow, incremental, Machiavellian means which turned society inside out. This had to be done through systematic deception, winning the trust of the naively idealistic middle class by using the language of morality to conceal an agenda designed to destroy it. And the way to do this, he said, was through ‚Äėpeople‚Äôs organisations‚Äô
One organization would possibly be the Black Muslim mosques, from which Obama hired a number of his staff.
Also useful are 'black liberation theology' so-called 'churches' which exist to spread revolution. The impression is that community organising is a worthy if woolly and ultimately ineffectual grassroots activity. This is to miss something of the greatest importance: that in the world of Barack Obama, community organisers are a key strategy in a different game altogether; and the name of that game is revolutionary Marxism.
PALIN asked about this job [URL=http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2073071/revolution-you-can-believe-in.thtml]]]Obama the Community Organizer-taught by Lucifer admirer Saul Alinsky-his creed was set out in his book ‚ÄėRules for Radicals‚Äô dedicated to Lucifer..the ‚Äėfirst radical‚Äô. [/URL]
The seditious role of the community organiser was developed by an extreme left intellectual called Saul Alinsky. He was a radical Chicago activist who, by the time he died in 1972, had had a profound influence on the highest levels of the Democratic party. Alinsky was a ‚Äėtransformational Marxist‚Äô in the mould of Antonio Gramsci, who promoted the strategy of a ‚Äėlong march through the institutions‚Äô by capturing the culture and turning it inside out as the most effective means of overturning western society. In similar vein, Alinsky condemned the New Left for alienating the general public by its demonstrations and outlandish appearance. The revolution had to be carried out through stealth and deception. Its proponents had to cultivate an image of centrism and pragmatism. A master of infiltration, Alinsky wooed Chicago mobsters and Wall Street financiers alike. And successive Democratic politicians fell under his spell. Marxist revolution achieved by slow, incremental, Machiavellian means.
9/2/08 11:19 PM Locke Moderator Alpha wrote: I have removed several of your posts already because of trashy language not becoming of a Christian.
9/1/08 7:00 PM Locke
"By their fruits, ye shall know them."
9/1/08 12:48 PM Locke
Every liar will have his place in the lake of fire
7 of 39 removed! wow!
[URL=http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72511]]]Obama worse than NARAL! Jill Stanek[/URL] Obama "is the most pro-abortion senator.Even NARAL " wouldn't support the infanticide BO does.
ALSO why look at 'photos' you cite? as I pointed out 9/5/08 3:56 your: 9/5/08 3:34 PM "miniskirt wearing Palin" was a 'photoshopped' FAKE! http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2008/09/03/more-sarah-palin-hot-pictures.htm Who knows if this isn't more photoshop lies? You didn't care that the last ref. was debunked.
And,why did God the Father's "son" Lk 3:38 Adam, fall? Bad Parenting?