Christopher, we all struggle with these questions. May God grant you peace, even if He won't grant your request. For He did say, "Peace I leave with you. My peace I give to you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Your heart must not be troubled or fearful" and I'm finding that whatever the trial, He can give us peace without removing the trial and we will find that indeed His strength is sufficient.

These absolutely turn my stomach. To butcher the image of God... The days are numbered, thank God!

If it was not for Christ! For "who can separate us from the Love of Christ? Can affliction or anguish or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? No, in all these things we are more than victorious through Him who loved us." Rom 8:35

People ignor vitamin C therapy which has been proven to cure a miriad of things. Pen's right here - people have stopped thinking and they just spew back whatever the "professionals" say and quit caring about this body that belongs to God. It's way less hassle to just ignor where the vaccines come from, what they contain and the risk versus benefits than research this. Still it should remain the parents choice at ALL times to go either route and that shouldn't be infringed upon.

Mike, I think Jim has actually said before he thinks vacc's should be mandatory. I think parents should have the choice and not be penalized either way. Those who do vacc shouldn't be worried about my non-vacc'ed kids because they're "safe"... right...?

The audacity takes my breath away... "extend his powers of forgiveness"?!?! These woman will need a mighty work of the Holy Spirit to save their souls if they agree to fall under the blasphemy of this so-called "forgiveness". Lost souls!

The fact remains that there is human DNA lines in two of the most popular vacc's in the U.S. from aborted babies. I find it a very credible concern, morally speaking.

two vaccines against hepatitis A, one produced by Merck (VAQTA), the other one produced by GlaxoSmithKline (HAVRIX), both of them being prepared using MRC-5;
one vaccine against chicken pox, Varivax®, produced by Merck using WI-38 and MRC-5;
one vaccine against poliomyelitis, the inactivated polio virus vaccine Poliovax® (Aventis-Pasteur, Fr.) using MRC-5;
one vaccine against rabies, Imovax®, produced by Aventis Pasteur, harvested from infected human diploid cells, MRC-5 strain;
one vaccine against smallpox, AC AM 1000, prepared by Acambis using MRC-5, still on trial.

"To date, there are two human diploid cell lines which were originally prepared from tissues of aborted foetuses (in 1964 and 1970) and are used for the preparation of vaccines based on live attenuated virus: the first one is the WI-38 line (Winstar Institute 38), with human diploid lung fibroblasts, coming from a female foetus that was aborted because the family felt they had too many children (G. Sven et al., 1969). It was prepared and developed by Leonard Hayflick in 1964 (L. Hayflick, 1965; G. Sven et al., 1969) and bears the ATCC number CCL-75. WI-38 has been used for the preparation of the historical vaccine RA 27/3 against rubella (S.A. Plotkin et al, 1965). The second human cell line is MRC-5 (Medical Research Council 5) (human, lung, embryonic) (ATCC number CCL-171), with human lung fibroblasts coming from a 14 week male foetus aborted for "psychiatric reasons" from a 27 year old woman in the UK. MRC-5 was prepared and developed by J.P. Jacobs in 1966 (J.P. Jacobs et al, 1970). Other human cell lines have been developed for pharmaceutical needs, but are not involved in the vaccines actually available.