" Not fore-choosing or fore-deciding to damn. But fore-knowing--knowing ahead of time that some will choose life, and others will---resist the Holy Ghost! The human Will can actually resist the pulling and calling of the Holy Ghost, and that resistance puts their damnation on their own heads. The sacrifice of Christ was perfect. It was complete. Not for our sins only, but for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2 Even for those who resist the Holy Ghost and will not come. "
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Amen!! Your post bears repeating. God loves the world and gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER BELIEVES on Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
WHOSOEVER BELIEVES on Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
WHOSOEVER BELIEVES on Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Dear Saints and sinners! Hear the Word of the Lord. God loves you. He wants you to dwell with Him eternally. He has made provision for your salvation. For those that have not received Him, receive Him today!! As many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the Sons of God!!

"I am a Calvinist, and I believe only the elect will be saved. Thank God that he will save a "remnant according the election of Grace."
That doesn't mean that I know who the elect are except those who believe in the Son.
Abigail is still scratching her head about how can the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees be exceeded in order to enter the Kingdom of heaven. Here is a clue Abigail, it must be by a righteousness outside of yourself- imputed"
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You are right, only the elect will be saved. What a glorious thing that God gave His only begotten Son that the world might believe on Him and be saved. All those who call on Him, He will in no wise cast out. But because only the elect will be saved—that is those that of their own free will seek after Him and find Him—that in no wise means that the whole world did not have a chance for salvation even though they refused the wonderful gift.

Another false accusation you Calvinists dish out!! I am not scratching my head about how we can exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees—I merely wanted to hear your analysis since you posted the verse redundantly.

"John 15:5 "I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me **YE CAN DO NOTHING**"
Now Jesus who is the Son of GOD, says quote "Abigail can do NOTHING"
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Does the Spirit do good works through you? If so, please explain!!

No one denies that without Christ the Christian can do nothing of any worth in the Kingdom of God. Jesus is stating that He is the vine, we are the branches and the branch must get its life and strength from the vine—separated it would die and be cast into the fire. That doesn't negate the free will of humanity. The entire world is full of people that are exercising their free will to serve Satan and carry out his diabolical acts. Christians are those humble souls that have submitted their lives to the Lordship of Jesus Christ and by His Spirit they do good works. He accomplishes good works through them, all of which are obedience to the Word and agree with the Word.

Christians become branches of the vine when they repent of their sins and turn to Christ. In the Kingdom of God, the saints can accomplish nothing except the Holy Spirit works through them. They yield their bodies a living sacrifice for His purpose and glory.

" Why do you continue in this dishonesty? By your own words, if you continue to sin by lying and bringing false accusations, you will lose the Holy Spirit, and thus, your salvation! Be careful, be VERY careful!
Just wondering (how you can continue to do what you accuse others of)"
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to have nothing to add for edification or teaching. Do you believe anything or are you just an agitator?

Please be specific as how I am lying and bringing false accusations—and continue to do what I accuse others of!!

"You're right. It is his ministry, and consequently it is not a ministry in truth. Otherwise, he would believe: "Therefore, hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will HE HARDENETH." Rom. 9:18"
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Who are you to say who He has had mercy on and who he has hardened? Of course, you will say those are hardened who do not believe you doctrine!!

"your problem isnt with pentacostals its with the word of God.its plain and simple and means just what it says just the way its written.Its sorry that people who call themselves christians try to pervert scripture to fit thier lifestyle instead of living a lifestyle as told in the Bible."
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Amen to your post, oldpaths!!

God's Word is true--if every man is a liar. What He is spoken is forever; no man can put to it or take from it.

" I agree with your comment, but do you agree that since the unregenerate man does not have the Holy Spirit indwelling in him, does he still have saving faith. Can he produce or even exercise saving faith without the Holy Spirit indwelling in him?"
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Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. The gospel is preached, which is the power of God unto salvation. The instant a repentant soul cries out to God for mercy, God grants faith to receive the promises.

" "Man, by his fall into a state of sin, hath wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation; so as a natural man, being altogether averse from that good, and dead in sin, IS NOT ABLE, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare himself thereunto.""
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Who said? None of those Scriptures state that humanity has lost his free will. Those who teach this doctrine do not want to apply themselves to obedience but live a life of disobedience claiming imputation of Christ's righteousness.

In the love of Jesus Christ with prayers

Only God's mercy, grace, and longsuffering holds back His hand of fury. God is angry with the wicked every day.

1Co 7:31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.

Greed and gluttony are the cause of the destruction of the earth and many of the environmental damages done to the earth. The Lord Jesus Christ, by His life and words, taught the saints that mammon and God are incompatible—you cannot serve both. The New Testament states that the saints are to love not the world nor the things that are in the world, for these are not of the Father, but are fleshly lusts. Yet the churches ignore the simplicity of the Word of God and seek to excel in wealth, competing with the world in gaining the riches of the world. Even those that preach against the "prosperity message" are engaged in obtaining the best because God is blessing to them. All who are born of God overcome the world with its pomp and pride.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Teaching children about Santa Claus is a lie. He is given the attributes of God. He is omnipresent (everywhere at once), omniscient (all knowing—knows if you have been good or bad), supernatural (flys through the air with his sleigh and reindeer), and invisible. He supernaturally slides down the chimney leaving presents for all the boys and girls and back up again without ever being seen. And he is called a "saint".

Santa Claus is an idol for children—Christmas means Santa Claus with gifts. They love Santa Claus more than they love Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is a sideshow.

The merchants get rich off Christmas shoppers. The whole Christmas spirit is a spirit of greed and covetousness. The decorations are expensive and pagan. People fool themselves into thinking they are celebrating the birth of Christ, when, in fact, they are slaves to a social custom that has them bound in the folly and foolishness of the world. God and Jesus Christ are not honored in Christmas tradition.

2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

" Are there two types of faith; one innate to the carnal mind which can believe unto righteousness and confess Jesus' lordship unto salvation according to Romans 10:9-10 and the other then proceeding from the indwelling Holy Spirit as the fruit of righteousness after one has believed unto righteousness with carnal faith?"
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I did not state there are two kinds of faith. I said that anyone can say with their mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord, meaning anyone with the ability to articulate words can say these words. Paul said "No man can say Christ is Lord except by the Holy Ghost", which could only mean that a person must have the indwelling Holy Ghost for Christ to be Lord of his life. The indwelling Holy Ghost is "Christ in you, the hope of glory"!

" When people were converted they were converted by the power of God. We believe that it takes the power of a Holy God to break the chains of bondage from sin whereas many of you believe that you have the power within yourselves to do it and that bondage does not really mean bondage.
When God does the drawing and not man, God will expose your sins to you and you will see yourself as God truly sees you and that brings repentance. Quick prayerism is a false gospel that gives false assurances to false believers who were never convicted of their sin to begin with."
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Absolutely correct, when people are converted, it is by the power of God. It takes the power of a Holy God to break the chains of bondage from sin—it is not a human power or the power of self.

God draws humanity to Himself through the preaching of the Gospel, which is the power of God unto salvation. Humanity must not remain rebellious but cooperate. He must be convicted of his wretched condition by the drawing power of the Father, repent and cast himself on the mercy and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ who died for his sins, acknowledging his helplessness and inability and his need of a Savior to redeem him from the clutches of Satan.

" Abigail wrote:
I don't get the connection, Seaton! Your texts have no correlation to the subject discussed.
Abigail, The point is the difference in the church between "heart" knowledge and "head" knowledge.
The first is from faith.
The second is personal human conviction.
The first is saving knowledge.
The second is NOT from the divine input of the Holy Spirit.
Many people consider themselves as part of the Body of Christ, - Because they attend a "church" eg the RCC, JW....
But just as there is false teachers, there is also false pew filling believers. Not to mention false denominations."
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The discussion was "Can a person lose his salvation? I posted, "For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. (2Pe 2:21)".

One could not know the way of righteousness without having been saved.

Your post is about false 'christians', which never had salvation to begin with. They could not lose something they never had.

I agree with your post.

" I keep asking this question and don't get an answer to it.
WHY does God need another 1000 years to work out life in eternity? Is it something to do with you folks doing salvation by works???"
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God's ways are past finding out. He is sovereign—didn't you hear? He designs His own plans and no one can annul them.

" Abigail wrote:
Whether you are Calvinist or not, I do not know. But if you are, you are contradicting your doctrines because Calvinists say that those dead in trespasses and sins cannot know God or call upon Him because they are spiritually walking dead men. They have eyes and cannot see and ears and cannot hear.
How could they possibly know the way of righteousness and then forsake it
Hope you guys don't mind me jumping in to ask.
But Abigail regarding your point above, what about Matt 7:21-23
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
Then there is the Parable of the sower? Not forgetting the RCC and so on?
Thus do we observe many who come to church but not to Christ."
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I don't get the connection, Seaton! Your texts have no correlation to the subject discussed.

" Abigail wrote:
Why is Romans 3:20 the only Scripture in the bible you believe? Your whole theological system is based on Romans 3:20!!
You manipulate all other Scriptures to agree with Romans 3:20 instead of harmonizing the Scriputres so that Romans 3:20 is rightly interpreted.
"Therefore, by the deeds of the law there shall be no flesh justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin". Romans 3:20
Okay Abigail,
You interpret it so that it harmonizes with your view of "all of Scripture". Let us see if your doctrine will harmonize Romans 3:20 with "For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and the Phraisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matt. 5:20."
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First answer this question. What was the righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees that we need to exceed?
And how do we exceed their righteousness?

" Abigail
2Peter 2 Is talking about false teachers as you can see from the introduction at verse one, and their descriptions in following verses. Try to stay in context!
"These" are NOT the saved believers but instead false professors of the faith, like Papists, JW's, Arminians, Antinomians and of course Pentecostals, etc etc.
Remember. Many come to church but do not come to Christ."
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Whether you are Calvinist or not, I do not know. But if you are, you are contradicting your doctrines because Calvinists say that those dead in trespasses and sins cannot know God or call upon Him because they are spiritually walking dead men. They have eyes and cannot see and ears and cannot hear.

How could they possibly know the way of righteousness and then forsake it if they never had eyes to see and ears to hear? Moreover how could those that were clean escaped from their error by their faith be allured through the lusts of the flesh through much wantonness?