One would think that the "a" in "murraya" would stand for "atheists" like in Madeline MURRAY O'Hara !

Hmmm.

The Jezebel that took Our U.S. Bible-Based prayers out of Our Public Schools back in the early 1960s--

Not to mention Our U.S. Authorized "King James" Bibles TOO !

*OH, FORGIVE ME, BUT I ALSO FORGOT TO MENTION MADELINE MURRAY O'HARA'S / JEZEBEL'S "AHABS" WHO POST ON THIS SERMONAUDIO WEBSITE LIKE "jim lincoln", "djc49", "rogerant", etc.

#1.Old Holiness Methodist Revivalist BOB JONES SR. renounced the RSV, ASV, ETC.; and used The AUTHORIZED "KING JAMES" BIBLE until the day he died !

#2.Dr. Henry Morris ALSO renounced the ASV-NASV, NIV & NKJB, ETC.; and ALSO used The AUTHORIZED "KING JAMES" BIBLE until the day he died:

"I believe therefore, after studying, teaching, and loving the Bible for over 55 years, that Christians...need to HANG ON TO their OLD King James Bibles as LONG AS THEY LIVE...

God has uniquely blessed IT in the history of England and America, in the great revivals...and in the personal lives of Believers MORE than He has the REST of the versions PUT TOGETHER...

C. Wesley & George Whitefield basically Believed & Taught That Spiritual Salvation was "Eternally Secure"; from whence we get The Calvinistic Methodist Doctrine of "Eternal Security".

Whereas, John Wesley basically Believed & Taught That Spiritual Salvation Could be "Lost" or "Fallen From; from whence we get The More Popular Arminianistic Methodist Doctrine of "Losing One's Salvation", "Falling From Grace" or "Eternal Insecurity".

Since The "Pentecostal" Movement was part of The "Holiness" Movement within The Methodist Church in The 1800s/1900s; The "Pentecostals" carried over this Doctrine of "Eternal Insecurity" From The Arminian-Arm of The Methodist Church: when the Pentecostals Established Their Own Several "Independent" Pentecostal Denominations like "The Church of God in Christ", "The Assemblies of God", "The Church of The Nazarene", Etc...

A Democratic Conservative wrote:
It's no secret that Biden is an Eastern U.S. "Old-Money" Conservative Democratic Senator from Delaware.

It's also no secret that Caroline Kennedy (Daughter of The Late Assassinated President JFK) was VERY instrumental in Vetting Out ALL the other vice-presidential contenders; & Selected Joe Biden (a Roman Catholic & U.S. Constitution Loyalist--like Her Father JFK--as opposed to being a Satanic-Vaticanist "Canon-Law" Loyalist; ala Vatican-"Jesuitic" Stooge: former US-UN Ambassador Alan Keyes) !

That's why Joe Biden, in 1984-'88, never made it past the U.S. Democratic Primaries to be Nominated For President of The USA: The Satanic Vatican DOESN'T Totally Trust Him:

He's Too Much an Independent Constitutional Conservative Democratic Thinker like President & Bobby Kennedy were.

NOW The Satanic Vatican will HAVE TO Assassinate BOTH Obama & Biden; if She wants to CONTINUE Controlling The U.S. Presidency with Stooges like John McCain, The Skull&Bones Bushes, Ronald Reagan or Even Globalist Democrats like: The Clintons !

#1.The so-called "counter-charges" that you yourself (murraya) falsely accuse me of making; are in & of themselves a FALSE CHARGE !

#2.I guess it's REALLY you, "murraya", who is the true victim of the "tu quoque fallacy" !

#3.Besides, Am I before The GRAND INQUISITOR GENERAL of this sermonaudio website (as Protestant "GRAND INQUISITOR GENERALS" Have NEVER, Do NOT Presently; Nor EVER WILL Exist In The FUTURE !) that I'm under the command, under pain of TORTURE; MAIMING; or DEATH: to answer "djc49's" Question(s) ?

#4.As I and The Whole TRUE Sola-Escritura Bible-Only "Catholic" & Protestant Judeo-Christian Biblical-Literalist World knows that it's/they're (a) Satanic-Vaticanist, Roman "Catholic" Cultic & "Jesuitic(al)" TRICK QUESTION(S) !

Albeit, If "djc49" will gladly answer my Question(s) FIRST; as a sign of GOOD FAITH: I WILL THEN GLADLY ANSWER HIS QUESTION(S) TOO !

Hmm.

For Authorized Bible Believing Christians the statement above should be:

"Authorized Holy Bible Study Says 'Sodomite-Devil-Spirits' Are Indeed Real (& Seducing Too) !"

#1."Now the (HOLY)SPIRIT speaketh expressly, that in the Latter Times some shall Depart from The Faith, giving heed to SEDUCING SPIRITS, and Doctrines of Devils;

2 Speaking Lies in Hypocrisy; having their Conscience Seared with a Hot Iron;..." I Timothy 4:1-2

#2."This know ALSO, that in the Last Days PERILOUS Times shall come.

2 For MEN shall be LOVERS Of THEIR OWN SELVES, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, UNHOLY,

3 WITHOUT NATURAL AFFECTION, trucebreakers, false accusers, Incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, LOVERS OF PLEASURES MORE than LOVERS OF GOD;

5 Having a form of godliness, but Denying the POWER Thereof: From Such TURN AWAY." II Timothy 3:1-5

murraya wrote:
Dem(ocratic) Conervative, Pleeeez! Just answer DJC49's question (or challenge, whichever you prefer). Never mind the irrelevant counter-charges! Haven't you heard of the tu quoque fallacy? Answer his question!

#2.I guess it's REALLY you, "murraya", who is the true victim of the "tu quoque fallacy" !

#3.Besides, Am I before The GRAND INQUISITOR GENERAL of this sermonaudio website (as Protestant "GRAND INQUISITOR GENERALS" Have NEVER, Do NOT Presently; Nor EVER WILL Exist In The FUTURE !) that I'm under the command, under pain of TORTURE; MAIMING; or DEATH: to answer "djc49's" Question(s) ?

#4.As I and The Whole TRUE Sola-Escritura Bible-Only "Catholic" & Protestant Judeo-Christian Biblical-Literalist World knows that it's/they're (a) Satanic-Vaticanist, Roman "Catholic" Cultic & "Jesuitic(al)" TRICK QUESTION(S) !

Albeit, If "djc49" will gladly answer my Question(s) FIRST; as a sign of GOOD FAITH: I WILL THEN GLADLY ANSWER HIS QUESTION(S) TOO !

DJC49 wrote:
So I take it (from your typical psychoneurotic response above) that you do NOT interpret the "ten thousand times ten thousand" of Daniel 7:10 literally?
Hmm?
Help me out here. I'm having difficulty understanding where you stand on the "ten thousand times ten thousand"

Hmmmm.

For one who cannot discern between the Literal & the Heretical; he sure has difficulty in understanding & counting "ten thousand times ten thousand": maybe he should go back to grammar school.

djc49 wrote:
So Harvard was willing to grant you a scholarship, not just to it's University...

Like in trying to discredit me or SMEAR me on this sermonaudio website.

Any idiot can see that one has to attend Harvard University BEFORE one can attend its Law School.

But I suppose djc49 is just Too Smart to Know THAT !

djc49 shouldn't just "take some of THIS" but he should also take some of THAT (THAT "OLD TIME RELIGION AND ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY OF THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE (KJV-B IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE) !

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As I suppose that djc49 thinks that his SAT scores are ABOVE 1250 on both the Verbal and Math.

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djc49, Just Fess Up that you are a Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuitic" plant-implant on this sermonaudio website.

We ALREADY know.

But Just FESS UP !

Confession is good for the soul.

Daniel Lee Ford wrote:
You (djc49) ARE right about former AMBASSADOR Keys:he just ran for Senate against BO and was trounced handily, so it was an easy typo to make. 50% right...the dude said (in another thread)he did NOT go to Harvard Law...which is normally a point in anyone's favor. so you're wrong there, too...takes you down to 33.3333%...If you went to Harvard, you'd probably get a failing 'bean' mark...

Roman "Catholic" Cultic "Canon-Lawyer" Alan Keyes was a CANDIDATE for U.S. Senator--and NOT a former U.S. Senator (so I made a simple typographical error--and djc49 wants to already CRUCIFY me for it [Just shows you who he is REALLY spiritually Running & Rome-ing with) !

And, it is an Historic FACT that I turned down an ALL-pre-paid Scholarship to Harvard University (Law School)--but instead chose BJU--just ask my highschool Counsellor, Mr. Richard Sitch (who incidentially was Converted to The TRUE Christ of The Authorized Holy Bible: from his False Religion of Roman "Catholicism" during my Jr. year in HS) !

I Graduated in the TOP 1/4 (25%) of my HS Graduating Class.

Preserved wrote:
...But as much as I love the ol KJ, Its paper and ink will not be found in heaven...

As An Historic Authorized Biblical-Literalist, I Believe That LITERAL Books (Actual Ink, Paper & ALL) will be OPENED & READ FROM At The Great White Throne Judgement Seat of The LORD Jesus Christ:

"A fiery stream issued and came forth from before HIM: thousand thousands ministered unto HIM, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before HIM: the JUDGEMENT was set, and The BOOKS Were OPENED." Daniel 7:10

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before GOD; and The BOOKS Were OPENED: and Another BOOK was OPENED, which is THE BOOK OF LIFE: and the dead were JUDGED out of THOSE THINGS which were WRITTEN in THE BOOKS, according to their works." Revelation 20:12

"THE BOOKS" that "WERE (Will Be) OPENED" are None Other But The 66 BOOKS of THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE-SCRIPTURES: GOD'S Holy & Eternal WORD that is "FOR EVER...SETTLED IN HEAVEN." Psalm 119:89

hidemi williges wrote:
Unfortunately, BJU went the way of apostasy. Compare the teachings of Bob Jones SR. with those of Bob Jones III...

And to think that I rejected an ALL-pre-paid Scholariship to Harvard University (Harvard Law School), that was offered to me after highschool graduation, and instead chose to make application & attend BJU.

Back in the late-'70s, something VERY Grievous & Spiritually DAMAGING happened to BJU & U.S. American Christian Fundamentalism.

And to This DAY They have NOT Fully Recovered !

But it's NOT as if U.S. American Christian Fundamentalism wasn't forewarned by Just Men like Jack T. Chick; or given forwarnings by Holy & Truth-Telling/Speaking Saints of Almighty God like Br. Alberto Rivera:

The Former High-ranking "Jesuit" priest (Who was being "groomed" by the Satanic-Vatican in the '50s/60s to become It's Next "Black-Pope") BUT was Genuinely Converted To The TRUE Lord Jesus Christ in 1967; and whose Testimony came out To THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD in The late-'70s !

Bill Grimes wrote:
The vice presidential candidate has more qualifications to be President of the United States than the preidential candidate.

And therein lies the reason why Obama selected Joe Biden.

It's no secret that Biden is an Eastern U.S. "Old-Money" Conservative Democratic Senator from Delaware.

It's also no secret that Caroline Kennedy (Daughter of The Late Assassinated President JFK) was VERY instrumental in Vetting Out ALL the other vice-presidential contenders; and Selected Joe Biden (a Roman Catholic & U.S. Constitution Loyalist--like Her Father JFK--as opposed to being a Satanic-Vaticanist "Canon-Law" Loyalist; ala Vatican-"Jesuitic" Stooge: former U.S. Senator Alan Keyes) !

That's why Joe Biden, in 1984-'88, never made it past the U.S. Democratic Primaries to be Nominated For President of The USA: The Satanic Vatican DOESN'T Totally Trust Him:

He's Too Much an Independent Constitutional Conservative Democratic Thinker like President & Bobby Kennedy were.

As I said before, while a student at BJU in the '80s; The Apostate "Vaticanus"-ized False-Brethren Crept-In @ BJU, who have "Fallen-Away" (Apostacized) from The KJV-Bible: tried unsuccessfully to pervert my Simple Child-like Faith in GOD's Preserved Holy Word in The English Language (aka KJV-Bible).

The Chancellor of BJU at the time, Dr. Bob Jr., told me to STAND on THE HOLY BIBLE of His DADDY (Bob Jones Sr.)--Which was The KJV-BIBLE !

And I did--STILL DO TODAY !

Dr. Wayne Van Gelderen Sr., who was my Sponsoring PASTOR for BJU at The Marquette Manor Baptist Church, Downers Grove, IL, ALSO told me to STAND On THE HOLY BIBLE of The Grand-Old FUNDAMENTALISTS like Billy Sunday, Sam Jones, J. Frank Norris, Etc.:

That is, THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED ENGLISH HOLY BIBLE WITHIN THE LAST 400 YEARS...

THE KING JAMES BIBLE !

P.S. This is something that I NEVER understood about BJU--They invited KJV-Only Ian Paisley to preach there in 1988--after Br. Paisley Exposed The Anti-Christ of Rome with His KJV: but BJU tried to replace my KJV w/Satan's NASV-B in 1988 !

MurrayA wrote:
No, Dem(ocratic) Con(ervative)s, a CT advocate such as myself...

But True Elect, Chosen & Predestinated Saints of Almighty GOD & The LORD Jesus Christ expect Satan to Attack Those who stand on The Historic English Authorized "King James" Version of The Holy Bible !

As I said before, while a student at BJU in the '80s; The Apostate "Vaticanus"-ized False-Brethren Crept-In @ BJU from The KJV-Bible: tried unsuccessfully to pervert my Simple Child-like Faith on GOD's Preserved Holy Word in The English Language (aka The KJV-Bible).

The Chancellor of BJU at the time, Dr. Bob Jr., told me to STAND on THE HOLY BIBLE of His DADDY (Bob Jones Sr.)--Which was The KJV-BIBLE !

And I did--STILL DO TODAY !

Dr. Wayne Van Gelderen Sr., who was my Sponsoring PASTOR for BJU at The Marquette Manor Baptist Church, Downers Grove, IL, ALSO told me to STAND On THE HOLY BIBLE of The Grand-Old FUNDAMENTALISTS like Billy Sunday, Sam Jones, J. Frank Norris, Etc.:

But True Elect, Chosen & Predestinated Saints of Almighty GOD & The LORD Jesus Christ expect Satan to Attack Those who stand on The Historic English Authorized "King James" Version of The Holy Bible !

As I said before, while a student at BJU in the '80s; The Apostate "Vaticanus"-ized False-Brethren Crept-In @ BJU from The KJV-Bible: tried unsuccessfully to pervert my Simple Child-like Faith on GOD's Preserved Holy Word in The English Language (aka The KJV-Bible).

The Chancellor of BJU at the time, Dr. Bob Jr., told me to STAND on THE HOLY BIBLE of His DADDY (Bob Jones Sr.)--Which was The KJV-BIBLE !

And I did--STILL DO TODAY !

Dr. Wayne Van Gelderen Sr., who was my Sponsoring PASTOR for BJU at The Marquette Manor Baptist Church, Downers Grove, IL, ALSO told me to STAND On THE HOLY BIBLE of The Grand-Old FUNDAMENTALISTS like Billy Sunday, Sam Jones, J. Frank Norris, Etc.:

That is, THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED ENGLISH HOLY BIBLE WITHIN THE LAST 400 YEARS...

I AM a Catholic--An TRUE Authorized (English "King James") Bible Believing BIBLICAL-LITERALIST "Sola-Escritura" Holy-Bible-Only 66-Booked-Scriptural BIBLE Catholic: Just like ALL True (Universal) Born-Again Bible Believing Saints in The LORD Jesus Christ are Bible Catholics--NOT Roman (Roamin') "Catholics", mind you, but Holy BIBLE-ONLY Catholics (The True Historic "Protestants" if you please) !

Can any "good" Bible, especailly any "good" 'Chronological Bible', ever come from The PITS of ROME & Its Satanic Vaticanist Roman "Catholic" Cult of Popish "Jesuitic" Vaticanism ?

I think (really know) NOT ! ! ! ! ! ! !

And besides, Sanford probably didn't use The Authorized English Holy Bible which has been, and is STILL, in use for the last 400 years:

The Authorized English "King James" Version of The AUTHORIZED Holy Bible !

When I was a student (Ministerial Major) at Bob Jones University back in the 1980s; I remember they were subtly trying to shove the NASV-B Bible-Perversion down our (the students') throats (spiritual throats that is).

I appealed to the Chancellor at the time, Dr. Bob Jones Jr., who told me to stick with The KJV like His Daddy (Bob Jones Sr.) DID.

Which I've DONE, and WILL DO: