HerbalMama wrote:
Was it really, once again, implied that those that don't buy into fear and propaganda are fools and deny God?

I think it must be me, because I am the only one who mentioned psalm 14:1, about the fact that it is the fool who says in his heart, there is no God.

In that case, I believe you misunderstand what I was saying, and want to give you a chance to go back on your assertion concerning "this crowd" and "mob mentality" reigning supreme. That was hurtful, and designed to be so.

What I suggest is that you actually quote something I said, from my post, which led you to say what you did, and explain to me why you said it. This will give me an opportunity to explain, if any explanation is due. Thank you.
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Mike, it is not a head scratcher if the experts are Christian men and women, who do have the Holy Spirit. It is also true that not all Christians have wisdom. How do I know if you have wisdom, or John MacArthur, for example.

Mike wrote:
Frank is doing what he thinks best, and it is right for him to do so. It is based on what he knows about himself. It's called wisdom. It should be allowed others as well, no?

The Bible says that those who deny the existence of God are fools. In the UK the Christians are surrounded every day by fools.

Recently, thanks to the work of the guv, we had broken the back of the coronavirus, and after short space we should have defeated it and returned to normal. But as restrictions were eased off gently, the fools, having no peace in their hearts, went on a rampage of hedonism, and disobeyed all the restrictions, thinking those restrictions to be nonsensical, when in fact it was they who were acting nonsensically. What do you think happened? Nothing?

Mike wrote:
Hi John, well let me see. Since flu vaccine is 45-55% effective, but not likely known by most, the answers to the 5 questions is yes. But if doing so makes them less fearful, it’s useful in that regard. Perhaps the rushed covid experimental vax will lessen the present fear as well.

Frank wrote:
Hey brother!
I get the flu shot every year because I am old and have COPD, diabetes and hypertension. So, if I get the flu, I am very likely to die. The same would go for Covid 19. If I am still alive when a vaccine comes out, then I will take that as well. I am not an epidemiologist so I just go by what I think is logical for me. I wear a mask when in public places and I wash my hands when getting back in the car or back home. I am not aware that I do these things because of fear; concern would be a better word.

I don't know where you get this 'fear' thing from, Mike.

Watcher wrote:
Indeed. We repent through the power of the Holy Spirit and continue to repent for the rest of our lives. Do we do this to gain some sort of favor from God? Heavens no. Nothing we do can earn God's favor. We continue to strive to live a holy life to bring Him glory and thank Him for saving us in the first place.

We can also say that sin in our life will be slowly eradicated through chastisement, which is not a joyous experience but grievous. Nevertheless afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness in them that are excercised thereby.

We can also say that God will not hesitate to strike his people down with sickness and even death, for not repenting of sin. There are examples of this in the new testament, and even in the letters he dictated to John for the churches in Asia Minor.

Mike wrote:
Sure would be nice to see data on the percentage of cases that recover. But who cares about the very high recovery rate when fear is an essential business, to be kept open at all costs?

In the UK people, especially elderly people are offered a flu jab if they should so desire one, and this is a free vaccination from the NHS. Are those who take up the offer doing so.....

1. Because it's free, and they love something for nothing?

2. Out of fear of catching the flu?

3. Because they like being attended to by nurses?

4. Because they are lonely?

MusicGal wrote:
Yes John. Everything points to the work of the Lord Jesus. He is our Hope of Glory as you say. Not of ourselves but of Him. May He continue to work in our lives and conform us daily.

Adriel wrote:
Amen Bro.
God alone be praised.

To God be the glory, great thing he hath done! Yes indeed, praise the Lord for his grace and mercy, his great love, his sacrificial giving, his giving of gifts, the sender of the Comforter, the Paraclete.

Adriel wrote:
John.
Prayer power!!
Of the faithful.
“Who, among all the readers of this paper, desires to be saved by Christ, and yet is not saved at present? Come, I beseech you—come to Christ without delay. Though you have been a great sinner, Come! Though you have long resisted warnings, counsels, sermons, Come! Though you have sinned against light and knowledge, against a father's advice and a mother's tears, Come! Though you have plunged into every excess of wickedness, and lived without prayer, yet Come! The door is not shut, the fountain is not yet closed. Jesus Christ invites you. It is enough that you feel laboring and heavy-laden, and desire to be saved. Come! Come to Christ without delay!
Come to Him by faith, and pour out your heart before Him in prayer.“
(J C Ryle)

MusicGal wrote:
2 Corinthians 13:5 says "Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith." This is looking inward and seeing the fruit of the Holy Spirit within you. Nothing of ourselves but His work. Luke 6 says we are known by our fruit yes and our fruit gives evidence of our salvation. We don't create our own fruit but it is a product of salvation. 

As you say, the fruit, the work, the evidence of grace, is not of oneself, but the mighty working of the Spirit. Take away the Spirit, and the fruit will disappear.

- official figures -

"Coronavirus is continuing its spread across the world, with more than 36 million confirmed cases in 188 countries and more than one million deaths."

Mike wrote:
Here's a radical thought. No mandates one way or the other. No one has gone out of business from Covid. Many have from over-reaction to grossly faulty computer models. John, If it were truly about health, it would be equally applied across the board. It isn't. There is no getting around it. BTW, C19 has already had its day. According to the CDC, and they are considered experts, of the alleged 200k in the US, 6% have died from Covid 19. 94% had other issues to which C19 was added. The actual death rate *from* C19 is less than any typical influenza year, including the last season. I don't mind taking precautions, as my bracket is among the so called vulnerable, but I do that anyway with anything that comes along. Isn't that how grown-ups do things?

Mike wrote:
Keep those churches and synagogues closed. The experts know best. Harass not the mosques. The experts know best. Keep those liquor stores and abortion clinics open. The experts know best. Keep other small businesses closed. The experts know best. Keep Walmart open. The experts know best.

Is it tables turned time?

Are we at last going to hear the sound of a huge trumpet blast?

Frank wrote:
You are so right brother; if someone is unsaved then they cannot be less or more unsaved than someone else. Total depravity puts them in the same spiritual condition. Here is the way I look at this that helps me.
I put all the unsaved on an imagined bookshelf. The left side are the liberals and the right side are the conservatives, but both are on the same unsaved bookshelf. No one can serve Christ in a positive way unless they are in Christ. To suggest that because someone is a conservative they are in Christ has the effect of dummying down the gospel by making it works based.
I have read where the Pharisees actually walked with their heads down so they would not lust after women. And of course the Sadducees took progressive stances.
I didn’t come up with the bookshelf thought, but can’t remember where I first read it.

Watcher wrote:
I have known others who got the vaccine because their doctors convinced them to do so, and it nearly killed them. You have a bigger chance of getting COVID if you take the flu shot, than if you didn't.

John Chamberlain wrote:
The Clintons are satanic.
Trump is a gift from the lord.

I'm not sure about Donald Trump being a gift. He is God's appointment, though.

Adriel wrote:
What you have to remember Jim, is that whilst Donald is semi—moral ........ Hillary is ANTI—Moral. That’s the Democrat policy.

All I asked was, What do you think I should be doing that I am not doing, or failing that, what do you think I am doing that I ought not to be doing?