Ha!

Discerning Believer wrote:
Is that suppose to be a threat?
Perhaps we should call your pastor and tell him about your behavior on these forums. Also the fact that you claim to be a doctor, but will not post your credentials where you earned your degree. If it is an honorary doctorate, where from?

Hellow. I can only do so if you provide a number. How is that a threat?

It states that he gave a measure, not faith.

Quite a big difference.

Unless you mean to state that God gave a little bit of faith. Which is just as laughable as your first proposition.

Discerning Believer wrote:
I said most other dispensationalist, not all of them Yamil.
Perhapd JD would like to answer the question as well. He seems to oppose the doctrine from what I've gathered.
Also pertaining to Rom 11:32, there is a definite article before the last "all" in the Greek, it is "them all". This would limit "all" to a specific group of people, not the entire human population.

2. The specific group of people would have to be the gentiles since that is "alls" antecedent. So thanks for giving more validation to my point, although it was a perverted one.

R. K. Borill wrote:
Amen. I have one grandchild and another on the way. Grace and Peace to you and your family as well my friend.

Trust me, it does not take a genious to figure it out.

One is not a sinner because he sins. He sins because he is a sinner.

I also believe that original sin still applies to the Calvinist. Do you?

And that is the same God that states, "For God so loved the world..."

Oh, excuse me. I forgot. He is in much in control as long as the Calvinism chain will allow him to be.

DB wrote:
You may not believe this, but the bible tells us, Rom 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Rom 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" You may disagree again, but you are included in that group. And so am I.

I also believe in

Romans 11:32 wrote:
For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Please do. I need a good laugh.

Romans 11:32 wrote:
Of course you probably believe like most other dispensationalist that you were born divinely perfect without a sin nature.

Mike wrote:
"2. As for Yamil's suggestion that quote "anyone can have saving faith." - ???
Yamil please note that those who have "saving faith" - **ARE** Saved."
Elliot, are you saying those who have saving faith will be saved, or that the saved will have saving faith? What is the chronology between salvation and saving faith?

JD wrote:
This is tragic. This man is willing to say that God can not and will not keep his covenants.

So let's get back on topic.

The topic is not whether man can sin, the topic is whether or not man can have faith.

Discerning Believer wrote:
JD,
How can it be by grace and by faith at the same time.

Discerning Believer wrote:
Question is, Is faith the grounds of justification? Is it what causes God to justify us, or is it the means by which we believe on that justification already provided?

Joel Beeke wrote:
It is critical to note that nowhere in Scripture is faith (or any other grace) represented as constituting some ground of merit for justification.