Mike wrote:
Is all that we may do covered by the regulative principle or ordinance?

Minnow wrote:
There is no such thing as a pagan god...
except in a person's mind.
My point in Rom 14 is as it states, if it is holy to a person then who are you to judge?
Seems like the Host of Heaven considered it worth a celebration.
Luke 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

The only memorial ordained by Christ himself was the Lord's supper. "This do in remembrance of me".

DJC49 wrote:
Do pagans determine for all what day is for what commemoration?

Actually, if you want to get technical, you can calculate the birth of Christ based on the birth of John the Baptist from the announcement of the angel to Zachariah the father of John the Baptist.

Not only that, but they fail to grasp the erteral existence of God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. According to them Jesus didn't exist until the New Testament and the Holy Spirit didn't exist until after Christ ascended into Heaven.

Continuing with your thought, the apostle Paul says in Phil. 4:13, "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." He even acknowledged that without Christ enabling him, by giving him strength, he can do nothing that pleases God, it took the strengthening of Christ to be able to do it.

Instead of getting hung up on the TULIP, focus on the absolute holiness of God and compare them with yourself and see what moral qualities and virtues you have that would entitle you to enter His kingdom. Are you able to enter into Heaven with any of those virtues?

If you answer no, then you believe in the total depravity of man.

Do you believe man, left to himself will turn from his sin and seek after God or do you believe that God first seeks sinful man, convicts him and enables him to turn to God willingly.

Do you believe that Christ died for every sin and paid the sin debt for every single man? If so then all men would be saved. Since salvation is a gift, not a reward, all men would have to be saved. Why does the scripture say that he died for his SHEEP? Why does it say that he loved the CHURCH and gave himself for it. Did he give himself for the world or for the church?

These are very pointed questions Michael that you need to consider.

MurrayA wrote:
DJC49 and Peter J,
Thank you for your support against this allegorical foppery which our erstwhile "literalist" friends trot out (they are only literalist when it suits them - and BTW they have never replied to this point!).
I read your post, DJC49, on the Transfiguration, which you explained quite well.
However, I will have to bow out of this debate because of a crisis: I did not respond earlier this morning (my time), but I can now, albeit briefly.
My wife was involved in a car accident this morning at about 7:30 am local time. Her injuries, thank the Lord, are not life-threatening, but she may well have to undergo surgery for a broken clavicle and a fractured sternum, and she is in a lot of pain. I have only just returned from the hospital. Meanwhile, her car is a write-off.
So I have a lot on my plate right now and thus I have to sign off.
I trust that this plea is not going to be met with the cries of "cop-out", to which I have regrettably become accustomed from some quarters.

terry evans wrote:
Select a Candidate Quiz
The Holy Bible
In fact, he's closer to Obama and Clinton
Who, Ron or you

Minnow wrote:
Wrong article DB.
I said "INDefinite" article = "a"

Wouldn't you agree? The fact remains, it does have an article preceeding the noun and it is a definite article, so the rules of grammar need to be enforced in this case. If there was no articles at all, then it is open to interpretation, but such is not the case here.

DJC49 wrote:
What I DID say -- if you read me properly -- was that the Dispies were the 1st to allegorize THE TRANSFORMATION, and they did this to substantiate their claims about the LITERAL 1000-year Millennium. Even JD has Peter, James, and John representing classes of the Mill Kingdom!

To that I say Ha!

Minnow wrote:
Discerning Believer
There is NO indefinite article in the Greek!

(Rev 20:3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till ***the thousand years (τα χιλια ετη )*** should be fulfilled:...

(Rev 20:4) ... and they lived and reigned with Christ ***a thousand years. (τα χιλια ετη )
***

(Rev 20:5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until ***the thousand years (τα χιλια ετη ) were finished...***

Why not? What if the Bible is right and you're wrong, what have you got to lose?

The 4 living creatures are 4 living creatures. Very profound isn't it. I guess well see more when the events take place.

DJC49 wrote:
That the sole and particular purpose of God for the Transfiguration was to plant prophetic typology within the New Testament buttressing the Dizzy-spin-sationalist view of the LITERAL 1000-year Millennial reign of Christ is absurd.

One thing you need to be careful of in discounting a literal 1000 year reign is in the language of Revelation. Figurative or symbolic language is usually prefaced with the words "like as" or "as of" which in the case of the 1000 years is not so. It is preface with "the" or "a"

(Rev 20:2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him ***a thousand years,***

(Rev 20:3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till ***the thousand years*** should be fulfilled:...

(Rev 20:4) ... and they lived and reigned with Christ ***a thousand years.***

(Rev 20:5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until ***the thousand years were finished...***

(Rev 20:6)...and shall reign with him ***a thousand years.***

Simple Truths wrote:
But to answer your question...
Yes.

DJC49 wrote:
Comb these boards and show me ONE instance of my being disrespectful of Scripture,

DJC49 wrote:
Is it also the heresy of James when he wrote in his epistle:
"You see then that a man is justified by works, AND NOT BY FAITH ONLY." (James 2:24)
[A troublesome verse of Scripture if there ever was one. No wonder Martin Luther campaigned to exclude the Epistle of James from the canon of Scripture!]

Dr. Phil wrote:
It is impossible to answer this question without some understanding of which Israel is being spoken of.
Not all of Israel is Israel just as not all of the visible church is the church.

Yamil wrote:
You know very well, that I have no problem answering your questions with a simple yes or no no matter how ridiculous they sound.
I just thought that since you have a problem with dispensationalism, then you may need to talk to your pastor concerning the issue.
Unless you want me to be your pastor.