Weâve gone back and forth on this topic for years. I appreciate that you and other former RCs have un-scriptural associations with December 25th as an obligatory âholyâ day simply because of your past. As Iâve said again and again Iâve no problem with you and others not celebrating, much like the weaker brother that cannot eat meat offered to idols.
However, I do take issue when false historical claims as to the origins of words and false timelines are presented over and over and over again. Propagating the same urban legends year after year- misleading and binding the consciences of others with lies is wrong.
Unlike former RCs, as a born and bred Protestant, I have zero illusions that Dec. 25th is anything more than an optional civil celebration of an actual event that actually happened in actual history. Is Dec. 25th the exact date of Christâs birth? We canât know. It is, however, the day that was chosen to celebrate that real event long before the RCC was a twinkle in Constantineâs eye. Dec. 25th is not alone in this regard. The First Thanksgiving would have actually been held in September- not November. The Declaration was signed on the the 2nd of July not the 4th.
(TMC) @John UK âNow TMC, when it says the Bible is the "ultimate authority", is it saying that there are other authorities, such as church councils, church fathers etc.? ...there is a difference between "ultimate authority" and "sole authority".â
Generaly speaking, (at least in the American Apologetic and Theonomic circles Iâm familier with) âUltimate Authorityâ means whatever is viewed as your âfinal court of appealsâ when dealing with lesser authorities- i.e. Parents, Civil Magistrates, and Elders in the Church. For example, Anarchists view themselves as the âUltimate Authorityâ and Statists view the State as the âUltimate Authorityâ. In reality, God (as revealed through His Word) is the only True Ultimate Authority.
Biblically speaking, God has granted conditional sphere authority to The State, The Church, and The Family. (Romans 13:1) We are to submit to these authorities except when they over-step the Ultimate Authority- Godâs Revealed Word. To deny these lesser authorities would be to undermine Scripture itself.
Unfortunately, the Westminster Divines had a less-than robust view of Godâs Word as Ultimate Authority outside of the sphere of the Church- particularly when it came to Law and the State.
(Charles) @John UK 1st off I am TMCâs, 2Timothy 3:16, John 8:32âs father and Kayâs husband! I donât usually post on here. As for pagan days, the pagans claimed every day. All days are created by God and we are to worship Him everyday. Every day is named in celebration of a different god like today is wodenâs day. Should we never celebrate the sabbath day on Sunday because itâs dedicated to the sun god? Obviously there is no middle ground here for you. May the Lord bless you and keep you and shine His face upon you đ ps Kay tells me you donât like exclamation points so I have omitted them on your behalf brother đ
(Charles) Putting the verse in context should clarify any misunderstandings of how it was written and how it was meant. Romans 14:5-8 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
(Charles) Looks to me like scripture assigns an age to Jesus Christ the Son of God!
Luke 3:23 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, Luke 2:42 42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
"Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God." ~ 2 Corinthians 1:3-4
âAll people that on earth do dwell, (0) Sing to the Lord with cheerful voice; (1-Lord) Him serve with mirth, his praise forth tell, (2- serve; with) Come ye before him and rejoice. (2- come; before)â
There are 112 words in the combined stanzas of âPsalm 100â from the Psalter - only 37 match what Psalm 100 actually says; which means that approx. 2/3rds of it is human invention. So how do those who believe we must only sing Godâs Words handle this very literal âadding toâ of Scripture?
Thank you very much for your reply and the links! Those articles were very interesting. It seems to me that the problems evidenced in them will require delicate handling, but wouldnât much of it be solved by a better and more-widespread knowledge of Scripture? I know a large problem in the American Church right now is a lack of teaching actual Scriptural applications rather than little âspiritualâ pep talks - has that infected your country as well? One never failing encouragement when speaking of any portion of Christâs Church is that it is His Church and He will not abandon His people!
Iâm afraid the banishment of children from the Church would be something I could not abide by. It is heart-breaking to think of young believers not able to be baptized or participate in communion- it is an express violation of Mark 10:14. Parents should take charge of teaching their children, and Sunday School is un-biblical, but they shouldnât be banned from the assembly of the saints altogether.
Thank you again, and I hope you have a Blessed Day!
Iâve heard that the official state registered church -( I think itâs called something like âThree-Selfâ?) only preaches part of Scripture, and that they are not allowed to instruct children in the faith. Is that true?