Matt 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Exactly. And my point would be that when you see the word "chosen" your Calvinist eyes should not simply glaze over and assume there's no reason behind God's choice. Choice is made based on quality, and quality is a measure of sanctification, from none to perfection, and Christian sanctification is a cooperative work between God AND man. (Phil. 2:12-13)
Without sanctification there's no fruit, and every branch that beareth not fruit is cast into the fire and burned.
By Spurgeon's uncharitable definition of Arminians I'm neither Arminian nor Calvinist. You can use your man-made labels or take the biblical route instead:
1 Corinthians 1:12-13 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
No one in particular. Anyone who will listen. I suppose you qualify, so you. ;-)
And yes, I am concerned for this guy, enough to pray for him. I'm hoping too that his distortion and misrepresentation of the person of God is not indicative of having no saving relationship at all.
FYI, my mission against Calvin is more about what he denies than what he affirms. Clearly salvation is entirely impossible without the intervention and empowering of belief in the heart of man by God. Clearly too God desires all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. (1 Timothy 2.) Unlike many of the Reformed persuation I'm not prepared to perform logical gymmastics to try to escape such plain doctrine.
It blows my mind that people wear the badge "Calvinist" with pride.
The other day I was on a street corner pleading with the lost on Christ's behalf, telling them that God commands them to repent and believe the Gospel.
Up walks this "Calvinist" who informs me that I'm on my way to hell beause I don't believe in his fictional God who created people for the purpose of casting them into hell.
The thing that floored me the most was that he did not care one iota for my soul. Matter of factly pronouncing my eternal damnation before casually walking away... not even a gram of love in his heart and concern for the lost; nor concern the he was dishonouring God with his fictional God-who-takes-pleasure-in-the-death-of-the-wicked doctrine.
Walter from Alabama writes: Required reading..The Sovereignty of God by AW Pink....
Been there, read that.
Then I started reading the Bible cover to cover...
Somewhere around 10 trips through I began to see that Calvin's neat little package falls apart under the scrutiny of the entire Word of God. Another 10 trips or so without my Calvin goggles and I can see clearly that his system is replete with error.
Now I just detest the doctrine of man.
"Calvinist" is an insult. What God-respecting believer would commit their understanding to a man instead of the Holy Spirit?!?
"The Reformed position is man is Spiritually DEAD AFTER the fall"
Irrelevant, as non-Calvinist BIBLE BELIEVERS obviously don't claim otherwise.
The fatal flaws of Calvinism are the ASSUMPTIONS that
1. God's illuminating life cannot be resisted. 2. God's illuminating life only shines on the elect.
The Bible could not be more clear on these points:
1. John 1:12 As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Q: Who are GIVEN power to be born into his family? A: Those who freely choose to RECEIVE him.
2. John 1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Q: Which men are given light by Jesus the true Light? A: Everyone.
I wonder if followers of Calvin can appreciate how apropos it is that the stiff-necked Pharisees, also in their commitment to the doctrine of men, RESISTED THE HOLY SPIRIT -- something the Calvinist doctrine of men claims is impossible?
Q: Why can't Reformers see that these are mere assumptions? A: Because they are committed to Calvin, not Bible truth.
Oh, and by the way: Associating all streams of error with being a non-Calvinist does not make it so. What is this? Guilt by disassociation? Your position that all of these miguided "churches" are so due to being non-Calvinist is disingenuous.
1 Sola scriptura ("by Scripture alone") 2 Sola fide ("by faith alone") 3 Sola gratia ("by grace alone") 4 Solus Christus or Solo Christo ("Christ alone" or "through Christ alone") 5 Soli Deo gloria ("glory to God alone")
If Latin was good enough for the Reformers why are you adulterating their doctrine with English? Tsk tsk.
While we're on the topic, how exactly are any of these "alone" if they are each only 1 of 5? The logic eludes me.
If man's response to God's appeal is irrelevant then why "choose you this day"? why "why will you die?", why "God commands all men everywhere to repent"? As a Bible-believing Christian I'm actually not interested in debating with Calvinists. My point is to show some of the issues with this lopsided doctrine.
You'll just have to take it on FAITH TOGETHER WITH SCRIPTURE AND TOGETHER WITH HIS HOLY SPIRIT that God can be both sovereign and give his subjects the real power of choice. The JWs can't believe Jesus is God. The Calvinists can't believe God gives man power to choose. The Bible teaches both. Who are you going to believe, God or man? Are you Calvinists going to keep throwing out passages you don't understand? Are you going to continue to scrap plain Bible teaching that doesn't fit into your neat li
Would to God there were more overzealous men instead of the under zealous majority today. By worldly standards all of the prophets that lifted up their voices like trumpets were overzealous. May God save His church from such misguided notions coming from within.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Acts 18:28 For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 20:20 [And] how I kept back nothing that was profitable [unto you], but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
1 Timothy 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Great Sermon! Thankyou Holy Spirit for giving Reg K. this msg.Everyone should understand its faith in God not self!!! you stay in the Bible & encouraging! Holy Spirit has used your preaching to mature me.Stay in the Faith brother! am praying for you.
John UK wrote: ...One thing I know, and if I have any goodness or some holy thought, I will not attribute it to myself, but to God's grace. I can only say, I am what I am by the grace of God.
"What do you have that you have not received?" Amen and amen. Let me testify brothers that having struggled fruitlessly in my own power against sin for too long, and having then seen in some measure the power of the Spirit to break the chains, that ALL OF THE GLORY FOR "OUR" GOODNESS BELONGS TO HIM! All praises to God, and none to us -- He must increase, and we must decrease.
Truly all that is vile in me is my own doing and fault, and all that is Christlike is of Christ. How else can all of the glory go to Him and none to me? And, thanks alone to His grace, this is indeed how I would have it. Praise God!
Let us continue to sincerely pray for transformed desires and motives that will bring honor to our King. It is a prayer that will be heard and answered.
America wrote: TB, Agreed with your posts. This has been our experience also in most congregations from pulpit to pew.Start talking about holiness and sanctification and you are usually told you are legalistic or trying to earn heaven. Was a blessing to read your posts.
Thank you America. It's an encouragement that there's a remnant which takes this seriously. It should be the cry of our hearts in prayer before God that we would hate our sin -- that's the kind of prayer He will answer. I can't imagine that the 80% who view porn weekly have been praying this way...
I love how God says "I have reserved 7,000 who have not bowed their knee to Baal." May we be reserved too, to not bow our knee to the Baals of our world!
John UK wrote: TB, there are some, including those of the RCC, who believe we are "being saved", by which they mean that salvation is not fixed at conversion, and that salvation is a process which requires certain things from us...
Those truly justified are born again once and forever into God's family -- "no one can snatch them out of My hand". That said, those truly justified are walking in some measure of sanctification -- "My sheep hear My voice". Those who are not led by the Spirit of God do not have the Spirit of God and are not His (Romans 8.)
With regard to imputed or declared righteousness (justification) and being translated out of the kingdom of darkness and into the kingdom of the Son we are saved once and for all time. In the sense of the sanctification that must necessarily follow true justification there is a cooperative process between the Spirit of God and ourselves. It is in this sense that I use the term "being saved" -- I'm not using it in the sense of adding to the cross of Christ to remain adopted into His family.
But these are basics.
Moving on from the milk... It would be nice if the declared righteous sheep of His could stand up for practiced righteousness without being castigated as works-salvationists.
John UK wrote: I don't hearken to pastors like that, and neither should you. Find a better church, or form your own. Preach repentance and holiness, faith and faithfulness, and get your people out on the streets obeying the great commission. Be not afraid of being cast into prison, or crucified for your stand. Be all out for Jesus, and do not listen to the gainsayers who do not have a heart for the gospel nor for people in great need. Do plenty of good in this world, give away any excess cash, and cast your bread upon the waters, as you will see it after many days. Be a winsome revivalist, and win battles against the devil, saving the church from shooting itself.
Amen to that.
And may all those being sanctified lift up the call to holiness unashamedly in Christ's church and without opposition from the saints. Just because there are those who corrupt the Gospel of grace into a "gospel" of works/self-righteousness does not mean those who are being saved should ever back down from the call to holiness, much less oppose it!
John UK wrote: Ha! There is a world of difference in believing in being spotless, and actually being spotless. Which one are you talking about?
Clearly I am talking about taking a serious stand against our own sin and striving by the Spirit for personal holiness in conduct.
John UK wrote: As for admonishing posters on here, and preaching at them, I suggest you go out and win some converts for yourself, and preach to them.
Thank you for the advice. It would be wonderful if that's all I needed to do, but alas, 80% of church-going men love their porn, and, coincidentally, approximately that percentage also rage against the admonishing of holiness among SermonAudio participants.
John UK wrote: Now in case you didn't ever hear the gospel...
Thank you for the reminder! I can't get enough of the Good News!
John UK wrote: You really believe that pastors are not teaching against sin among God's elect? Or are you relating to liberal and modernist "churches"?
Yes, I really believe that. Look at the stats man. How many porn perusing pastors do you imagine preach against porn?