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News Item2/16/13 6:25 PM
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John for JESUS wrote:
1. I question your view that the Catholic Church is totally bereft of the Gospel when it preaches out of the Gospels.
2. Not every church body believes that. I suppose that might come from Reformed churches who believe all things Catholic are evil and always have been.
3. I have only asked if the Catholic Church should be considered nonChristian and has it always been? The responses I've read here can be summed up with these responses. A. Of course it's heretical, it's the Catholic Church! B. I think it's heretical, here is a link that agrees with me therefore I'm right. C. I can't answer that intelligently, therefore you are a catholic troll! D. I don't know when it began, so I will just pretend it was heretical from the beginning.
1. Really JFJ?! So you believe that JWs are also Christian?

You had better think through what "the gospel" is! Hint, it is not just reading one of the 4 gospels!!

2. Name me any non RCC churches that believe that anyone can be saved by the RCC gospel?

3. Sounds to me like you're too lazy to do the hard work yourself, but you want the liberty not to accept and criticise any opinion that does not sit well with your current understanding.


News Item2/16/13 10:39 AM
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“Man, being a sociable creature, is mightily encouraged to do as others do especially in an evil example, for we are more susceptible of evil than we are of good. Sickness is sooner communicated than health; we easily catch a disease off one another, but those that are sound do not communicate health to the diseased.” — Thomas Manton

How or why then would someone converted remain in the RCC?


News Item2/16/13 7:16 AM
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JFJ - can you produce a single instance of someone who was saved but God left in an institution which is not only bereft of the Gospel, but preaches a FALSE gospel?

Luther started out wishing to reform the RCC, but in the struggle came to realise that reform was impossible because corruption was too widespread and ingrained and he and his followers came out.

Just as the RCC sought to persecute him and his followers, so they she has done throughout her history. Why do you suppose that historically the RCC has been judged by most Christian movements to be the Anti-Christ and the Pope The man of Sin?

You appear not only intransigent, but also quite arrogant in maintaining your stance. Is it not time to either prove your case or shut up?


News Item2/15/13 5:06 PM
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I wonder, are JFJ and SteveR monikers for the same person?

News Item2/15/13 3:23 PM
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John for JESUS wrote:
I have to ask if they really worship another God like the Mormons and JW? It seems to me they worship the Jesus of the Bible, not of the Book of Mormon or the NWT.
The Pharisees who believed in Jesus but were confused about obeying the Law to remain saved were still Christians, weren't they?
Oh you mean the Judaizers! You think they were Christian? Seriously?!

Perhaps you should read what Paul had to say about them and the names he called them and then decide for yourself whether they were Christians or not.


News Item2/15/13 7:29 AM
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knowing the truth wrote:
some of His most stern words and sharpest rebukes were to those [Jewish leaders] who mixed the truth of God with the commandments of men.
Are you saying that as long as a person is not a Jew then they should be at liberty to mix truth with the commandments of men with impunity?

News Item10/19/12 6:30 PM
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Yes , I would call that journaling. Thank you for your reply.

News Item10/19/12 5:58 PM
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Gentlemen, what is a meditation book?

News Item3/23/12 11:49 AM
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NOTbyworks wrote:
In the plan purpose and foreknowledge of God re the elect - once the "unpardoned" is indwelt he becomes pardoned.
Seaton, you're fast becoming the Joke of SA. You clearly have no knowledge of doctrinal matters. These things are just too hard for you. Just give up already, pleeeeeease!

News Item3/23/12 8:04 AM
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Mike wrote:
You would have an unbeliever indwelt before faith, but..
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Mike you've got the wrong Gay marriage thread!

News Item3/23/12 7:11 AM
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Gay Beauty wrote:
Ever since the day a man picked up a Bible and said, "I'm interpreting this by myself, for myself," is the very day that enabled same-sex marriage for the rest of us. If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then the blessing of gay marriage, at least for some, is too.
I didn't realise that all homosexuals and lesbians were making a case for human rights from the Bible

So thanks for the news

Allan, please give up on SA and go bolster the dupes who like you are members of the Whore!


News Item3/22/12 7:09 PM
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Not impressed wrote:
Seaton, care to explain:
Luke 11:13
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
How are they going to ask for the Holy Spirit without the Holy Spirit? And if they already have the Spirit, why would they ask for Him?
And bear in mind the Lord Jesus is speaking here of those he calls evil. IOW they are not converted!
Good one

News Item3/22/12 6:32 PM
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NOTbyworks wrote:
They did not!
Thanks. You have given me the answer to my first question by your response.

I suggest you take this matter up with your pastor, if you have one, because you need help that no one on SA can give.

Exposition of Acts Alexander McClaren Acts 14.27

“Faith is the means of God’s entrance into our hearts”

"...Paul prayed for the Ephesian Christians ‘that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith,’ and there is no other way by which His indwelling is possible. Faith is not constituted the condition of that divine indwelling by any arbitrary appointment, as a sovereign might determine that he would enter a city by a certain route, chosen without any special reason from amongst many, but in the nature of things it is necessary that trust, and love which follows trust, and longing which follows love should be active in a soul if Christ is to enter in and abide there..."


News Item3/22/12 6:02 PM
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NOTbyworks wrote:
They cannot believe Because (as I said below)
1Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
The time when they can quote; "receiveth the things of the Spirit of God:"
Is when the Holy Spirit indwells them.
When they are still in the flesh...
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; ....
6 For to be carnally minded is death; ...
7 BECAUSE the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, ***NEITHER INDEED CAN BE.*** # = COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE!!
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Seaton, seriously, do you have learning difficulties?

In your previous post you equated indwelling and being sealed. So, how did they believe prior to being sealed?!!!


News Item3/22/12 5:41 PM
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NOTbyworks wrote:
And the *ONLY* way which a sinner can convert into a "believer" (faith) and have spiritual knowledge - is by the work of the Holy Spirit - which post Pentecost HE carries out by indwelling. This is the seal/stamp of the Spirit filled Christian.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
You only have the seal/stamp after His work is completed - NOT before..
Go to the bottom of the class, bullet!

Read Eph 1.13 again... in whom AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise.

Can your poor brain process that? When were they sealed? AFTER THEY BELIEVED!!

As I said you have no comprehension skills

Now look at the order in the other verses that so far you have chosen to ignore because they devastate your case; verses which Hodge, Owen and Howe understood because they were spiritual and understood the Bible!


News Item3/22/12 4:59 PM
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NOTbyworks wrote:
Still NO proof!!
I win this one by default alone.
You and nobody else has proven your "distance" theory.
Whereas Indwelling of the Holy Spirit as an absolute necessity is stated in Scripture. Faith IS the work of the Holy Spirit so NOTHING can happen outwith His indwelling an event heralded by Pentecost.
I call again to all of you PROVE your 'distance' theory as an event prior to indwelling - or acknowledge my correct exegesis.
You have no comprehension skills and so I am happy to leave you to wallow in your pride and ignorance.

Just don't pretend that you are reformed, because that is the one thing you definitely are NOT!


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NOTbyworks wrote:
If you had the ability to argue the alternative theory I might see your point. But I suspect you cannot prove the alternative which we can call the "distance theory."
Reformed theology of whatever source agrees with my representation of indwelling after Pentecost. No one so far has been able to Biblically prove the 'other' hypothesis.
The scriptures teach indwelling after faith. Hodge, Owen, Howe & Co. understood this and they were not inclined to pervert the scriptures to suit any theory no matter how much it may have suited their calvinism.

Since you are disagreeing with them and the scriptures which they accepted as teaching indwelling after faith, the onus is on you to prove what you believe is more scriptural and that they all got it wrong.

As for your comment that "Reformed theology of whatever source agrees with my representation of indwelling after Pentecost" - this is an utter lie since it has already been pointed out that at least 3 reformed heavy-weights disagree with you, whether you acknowldge that or not.


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NOTbyworks wrote:
I guess what you are concerned about is the Biblical fact of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
The debate is well over now but one thing I did observe is that those who seek to establish the twofold operation of the Spirit, together with the "intermediate" stage of existence between flesh and Spirit stages, did not prove their theory from Scripture or anywhere else.
The ideology that the Spirit works first from a distance and subsequently from indwelling is just not Biblical. So where this hypothesis comes from I do not know, neither it would seem do any of the Biblical Calvinists in history.[snip]
So you are saying that Hodge and Owen and Howe got it wrong, as did the Lord Jesus at John 7.37-39, Luke at Acts 2.38 and the Apostle Paul at Galatians 3.2 and 3.14?

You're quite the humble one aren't you?


News Item3/22/12 12:38 PM
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NOTbyworks wrote:
No, not at all! Hodge, Owen and WCF were Biblical Calvinists like me!
(Don't know who 'Howe' is)
They WERE biblical calvinists. Precisely why they differ from you, because you are anything but!

If you don't know Howe, google "John Howe, puritan"! He too was a calvinist, as famous as Owen in his day. And what do you know, he too does not agree with you!

Are you man enough to recant and repent?


News Item3/22/12 12:23 PM
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NOTbyworks wrote:
..This so well describes the conviction of some who rejected the indwelling of the Holy Spirit; - only to advocate the sinner semi-independantly overcoming dead in sin, enmity and spiritual blindness - all from a distance??
Presumably you include Hodge, Owen, Howe and the WCF as advocating the overcoming dead in sin, enmity and spiritual blindness all from a distance camp and therefore you class them all as Arminian?
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