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 4/10/13 6:09 PM |
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SteveR wrote:
I suggest everyone read Calvins exhortation on this, as he has been very prophetic in light of todays reality of sexual immorality SteveR: I would like to read what Calvin had to say. Can you tell me where it is written...(in the Institutes?) |
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| 4/10/13 10:40 AM |
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Mike wrote:
Unfortunately, the only thing continuing to use the word sodomy for 2000 yrs has demonstrated, is that using it isn't working. How many who are not Christian even know what it means anymore? It is no longer part of the language. The argument has been reframed with the push for "same-sex marriage." Now we can continue to scream "sodomy" all we want, while the sodomites shrug their shoulders and say "so?" Or we can argue the circumstance we are in, i.e. the definition of marriage, which is God ordained, and is under attack now. This is beyond sodomy as sodomy. Mike:
No one is "screaming" sodomite on these posts that I have seen. Perhaps you say so because you perceive the word to be offensive. God's law offends. The gospel offends. If, as you say, the culture has abandoned a Biblical word, then even more reason for the church to continue using the word. If non-Christians do not know what it means, we should use it an opportunity to explain it to them as we would anything else in Scripture, including the one and only definition of marriage. |
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| 4/9/13 8:36 PM |
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Frank wrote:
Yes, using the term sodomy or sodomite is loving; helpful and good. That is why I said "sodomy" if someone prefers. Since I normally use the word homosexual in conversation, I hope you aren't saying I'm bowing my knee (worshipping) Baal. Bayly said it was bowing the knee to Baal and, while I would not have put it that way, the more I think about it, the more I believe he is right. By the way, I am putting myself in that camp as well since I am not always consistent in my terminology. Let's imagine for a minute, that perjury is made no longer against the law and it is rephrased by the liar lobby who now call themselves "creative communicators" as compared to "direct communicators (for truth tellers)". Should we adopt the term "creative communicator" instead of liar? It seems we are soft-pedaling the wickedness of sodomy by using terms of moral equivalence. |
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| 4/9/13 7:22 PM |
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Frank wrote:
Mike, you are on to something with how people use words or form their arguments. Using the term gay isn't correct and discussing "gay
marriage" also isn't correct. The real moral issue is homosexuality (or sodomy if someone prefers) I would agree with Rufus earlier. The modern translations largely omit the term "sodomy", as well as "fornication", and generally replace with sexual immorality. They have taken specific terms and replaced with vagueness. "Gay" does not work in that they revel in their gaity. "Homosexual" also fails because it is simply a clinical term, framed opposite heterosexual -- like left-handed, right-handed. I like what Pastor Bayly says on his Bayly Blog: "To give up the historic Christian term 'sodomy' is for us to bow our knees to Baal. For over two thousand years now, the Church has associated Sodom with same-sex carnal relations. In the face of the evil onslaught against God's Moral Law so pervasive in our culture, we ought to continue this usage, speaking of "sodomitical," "sodomy," and "sodomites," because these words are a biblical witness communicating the great shame and all-consuming wrath of God. This is true. This is good. This is helpful. This is loving." |
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