No commands, but trust and trustworthiness are biblical and desirous qualities. A handshake and a promise to repay a debt means nothing now a days. According to a more elderly friend of mine, he bought a car on a handshake saying that he would repay.
Personally, if we can't trust the sinless Savior then why would we trust deceitful man prone to sin. (Specifically lying in regards to trust.). Of course, I won't pretend that seeing people doesn't help a lot far as trusting them. Partially why trusting God is hard sometimes is because we are such visible people. Besides, if we didn't cons from God, and really evolved as the majority of people are being taught (dogmatically I might add,) then there is no reason to true people who are finally realizing that if they don't have to answer to a creator, then they can do what most benefits them. Basically, catching up to the hitker, Mao Zedong, and Stalin trains of thought on a national level and much smaller extent.
I think mr. Campo makes some valid points as well as 1517. Public schools and universities aren't inherently bad. The problem today is that from such a young age, the religious dogma piled onto a student is hard to combat. I would think it a little less hard for a teenager, but for a younger child that is a scary situation I think. 1517 is right that whether one home schools or not, there shoul always be a great deal of home schooling. If the majority would just follow their own advice and keep religion out of schools... Oh wait, that's impossible. Atheism affects the way you think and spend your time and teach. We are all worshippers and there is absolutely no way to separate that from ourselves. Mr. Campo is making a valid point that we are called to tell them that true worship is only through the cross.
Well, some say it is is a lack of belief and others are making churches out of the belief. According to atheistic reasoning, these are different denominations with different doctrine, so atheism can't be true because the don't agree with each other 100% of the time in one denomination...
Thanks for the well wishes Christopher, John and Penelope. And you are right about some sketchy science being out there Penelope. The world is rife with it, and good science has recently become an interest of mine thanks to creation ministries international. Because if you can get ppl to believe "scientific" (it's origins science, not observable or testable) reasons to disbelieve Genesis, then the rest of the bible is folly and useless. Either it's true on the historical level from page one, or it is completely wrong and cannot be trusted for spiritual matters.
Oh and John uk, you realize that if someone is working in a building full of unsaved people, then he has quite the battleground to glorify the Lord in daily, not just his home. Just some "in not of" semantics.
Wow.. Forgive my grammar and lack of brevity. I realize that that is a mess of grammar, and full of chopped off sentences and false starts and what nots. Just think of it as a brain teaser to put together and I can fill in any gaps or questions if y'all are still curious.
(Cont). Sorry for the length of this somewhat of a tangent.
Talking bigger picture, the end goal looks something like this. I feel called to be a missionary overseas. I've always enjoyed and had an aptitude for Spanish in the two years I took of it. But I feel the biblical model is of tent making, so I'm looking to pursue a degree that will put me in an international workplace to minister, as well as provide my own funding. Lastly, even bigger picture--I know I cannot fail ultimately if I'm honestly pursing Christ crucified in all my choices. There is a lot I don't have figured out and don't know of the future, but if I'm a hobo who preaches Christ crucified or a neurosurgeon who does, than I will consider my life to be a success.
Thanks for the patience, I think I've been properly introduced now haha.
Let me add a few details to the situation. I don't intend this to brag on me, but as a listing of credentials, and mostly bragging on God. God has blessed me in my schoolwork, so I'm graduating as valedictorian of my class in may. (And he's gonna get thanked for it too, among some other things.). I have a 31 on my ACT which means Mississippi will pay 13,000 dollars over 4 years. Now, the college I think I'm going to attend is a smallish Christian college with southern baptist heritage. It is William Carey university. Now at Carey, I qualify for 30 hours tuition for 2 years and 33 hours for the next 2. Plus a 1700 dollar room waiver and study abroad and other benefits. Oh, and as a presidential scholar you get/have to do four hours of service a week which is cool I think. So I don't think debt will be a problem. Not to sound idolatrous of money, but that is an awesome opportunity. Moreover than just a higher education, there are some things that will surely be invaluable. I will have to learn better money and time management. With a large percentage of Carey being women, I may very well happen to find a wife in the process, although that isn't the main focus. The hermeneutics and Bible classes will be of great help, and if I major in something like biology, then one
Wow, I feel loved with attention guys, thank y'all! Lets see if I can answer some questions.
Anne - With seven years you obviously have some experience. I'm happy to hear that you are on a wonderful marriage as well. As for me, much like your husband, I feel that my ambitions need further education that can enable me to live a more fruitful life. And I guess I should go ahead and open up this small can of works. I definitely do not believe in women pastors and elders, but I don't think that inhibits them from having a job. Are they to be the leader of the marriage? No. The man has the headship. And should their primary focus be the home an family? Yes. But I don't think if a women has a job or makes more money than the man that she is an unbiblical feminist. I suppose I can see how college is detrimental if it does promote women headship
SF. I haven't checked out college plus, but I have a fairly good idea of my current options, but I might check it out. I agree that a degree does not guarantee a job or paycheck too. I'll give an overall view in a second.
Penny - kinda funny that you mention that topic, the philosophy part. Comforts short film evolution versus God actually sparked my science interest in the past few months. The film itself is a fair job
Maybe a little off topic, but I'm a little bit surprised by the general college animosity on here. Animosity might be too strong of a word, but I can't think of another word at the moment. Maybe ambivalent animosity. I understand some of the viewpoint presented, but personally, I do not see college as a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination. It's funny, because as a senior, I'm actually in the process of making college visits and applying to colleges and scholarships and that whole ordeal, but I'm really looking forward to next year personally.
Your biggest point Christopher is the parenting for sure. Bad foundations in early years are hard to overcome. But I think the second thing is this: I'm a firm believer that your heart has a lot of trouble believing what your head won't, and with so many hitchens/Dawkins types peddling seemingly good arguments and the evolutionary mantra, that students get convinced. I don't think apologetics are taught in enough churches and to students. Personally, when I came to understand the consistency and reliability and historical and archaeological and prophetic and wide ranged but unified nature of the bible then my faith took a great turn. That's just for the bible too, not to mention arguments against evolution and teleological and other types of apologetics. I just fear too many are being fed milk and cake, when we are capable of potatoes and steak.
I went to the creation museum in Kentucky once. I was pretty young, wasn't sure what it was all about, but it was fun for sure. I would like to visit another since I've gotten a hair older and smarter. Creation ministry international (CMI) has become one of my favorite and go to resources for reasonable science.
Having some first hand experience here, I'll offer my two cents. To condense what Gs said, true rearing of children is in the home. Schools, church, and youth ministry are a supplement to the learning and guidance at home. The problem is that people have tried to make dessert their main diet. As for youth ministry, I won't decry it as unbiblical by any means, but I am afraid that many youth groups are too often shallow. That drives me nuts. I'm fine with some entertainment, using some modern technology and what not, even having some nights of just godly fun, but I think that there are way too many of those nights, and not enough of the serious study that students are capable of. I wish people wouldn't think of my generation as being so stupid. We are capable of learning truths that are difficult to understand if you teach us through them diligently. I mean, if myself and many other can grasp the concepts of chemistry, algebra, and calculus, then I bet we could understand, with a couple of good weeks teaching, that the Levitical laws were set up in a surzerain-vasal covenant and not intended for us today. But sadly, I don't expect to hear and explanation of surzerain-vasal versus grave covenants in a youth group. One last positive is that it has given me some pretty go
I think using the number 16 skews the numbers a little bit. Not that I think the economy is getting better, but 16 is a high school sophomore. Personally, my theory is that my highschool work is my job, and that next year, my college studies will be my job.
Goodmorning, John uk, I'm not Tim, but couldn't the middle ground be somewhere along the lines of, "God providentially at times of his choosing uses his power through people to heal others. This display of power is not based upon the fact that man has the power himself or simply wants to heal, but rather is an act the triune God whose end is ultimately to glorify himself throughout the healing and spread the Gospel of Christ.
Of course we are going to fix the national debt. If we run the the number up high enough then surely those to whom we owe money will simply stop counting and forget right? And even computer systems can only count so high...
Thanks Dolores, I do indeed love my southern home, and the people who still have some sense that live down here. Anyways, I agree that it's reasonable, although perhaps he could have more tactfully advertised but really no problem with it. Anyways, I'll prolly check in from time to time to ask questions and what not. One interesting piece of bio that could become relevant at some point is that, while it's a shot in dark, I'm may be the only under 20 Generation Y user.
First time poster here, and somewhat new(ish) here so please have a lil patience with me. But, Just get some of y'all's thoughts, what if Ham and his organization has put up the billboard but it had been advertising only, not provoking atheists?