"Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth."

1 Timothy 4:1-3 New King James Version (NKJV)

"But, because of fornications, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband."

"They forbid people to marry"

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth."

"Now John answered Him, saying, 'Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us.'

But Jesus said, 'Do not forbid him, for no one who works a miracle in My name can soon afterward speak evil of Me. For he who is not against us is on our side. For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink in My name, because you belong to Christ, assuredly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward."

The city clerk of Ephesus spoke to the Ephesians of their treatment Paul and those who were with him: "...you have brought these men here who are neither robbers of temples nor blasphemers of your goddess."

'Augustine,' Paul says: "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"

All through Romans chapter 6, we see that it is not right for the believer to continue in sin.

[URL=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+6&version=KJV]]]Romans 6 King James Version (KJV)[/URL]

Shall we be so ungrateful as to reject walking in newness of life when The Lamb of God died to free us from sin...?

"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

hugh wrote:
There is a rush to judgement oftentimes on this site.......
There is also , to me at least, a lack of Love on display....
Look at any news item on homosexuality, It is mostly inundated with comments....
[...] our prejudices aside, homosexuals are just as much In need, and not more so than family and friends whom are unconverted .... ALL need Christ.
If our sister In the Lord HAS Fällen, or strayed from the Way, then let us pray for her .... Surely this is a better way, than judging, and criticizing her..
Just a thought. He who is without sin , and all that.
Yours In Christ.
Hugh

Recently, I took time away from the SermonAudio forums because I was finding that all the "guess who's sinning what kind of sin" topics were dragging me away from a Biblical mindset, and I was getting very depressed. Zeroing in on the sins everyone else is doing isn't healthy.

I agree, news of persons' immoral lifestyles should be a call to prayer...

pennned wrote:
BJU lost their status and had to pay million in back taxes and more.
"Revocation of exempt status is a financial death penalty for most churches, as an estimated 85% of them barely break even or operate at a loss, with most of their efforts geared toward helping the needy. [...]
have we not learned enough from roe v wade what a worldly movement can do?

Affirming the Consequent: Invalid

If Artery is saying that Churches who lobby to have “freedoms taken away from ANYONE” should have their tax exemptions revoked, then Artery is saying these Churches should be shut down. Artery is saying that these Churches should be shut down.

If p then q
q
Therefore p

Modus Ponens: logically valid, yet is it sound?

If Artery is saying that Churches who lobby to have “freedoms taken away from ANYONE” should have their tax exemptions revoked, then Artery is saying these Churches should be shut down. Artery is saying that Churches who lobby to have “freedoms taken away from anyone” should have their tax exemptions revoked. Therefore he is saying these Churches should be shut down.

What really concerns me about the Roman Catholics now being referred to as Christian, is that those who are ready to attack the Christian faith are given more ammunition with the fallacy of equivocation ("the misleading use of a term with more than one meaning or sense"). Atrocities that were once attributed to, The Catholic faith, are now (even in historical documentaries), blanketed over the Christian faith in terms of responsibility. When in truth, persons who had been following Jesus' teaching during these alluded to points in history, would have been tortured, executed, and/or exiled as heretics.

If people represent themselves as police officers unlawfully, they are charged for impersonating a police officer. Moreover, in every occupation people expect to see the attributes of the said occupation in the person professing that line of work before they hire them. Yet, if individuals, or groups say they are Christians, people accept without merit. I have experienced this in general, and I have experienced this personally with a professor who went against me vehemently to argue that the Nazi's were Christians.

And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord who has enabled me, because He counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry, although I was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and an insolent man; but I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. And the grace of our Lord was exceedingly abundant, with faith and love which are in Christ Jesus."

~ 1 Timothy 1:8-14 New King James Version (NKJV)

"Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."