Unless I was to say I follow the Roman one in the Bible. Also Corinth and Thessaloniki, the Hebrew Christians, the Galatian church, Ephesus, etc....they're in the New Testament.
albert wrote: I cant find it in any christian church,even the roman church of the bible.
That's a good point.
albert wrote: As for Sundays,we follow what the deciples did on the first day of the week. The trinity is in the bible,but not the word trinity.
Yes, the Bible says they gathered on the first day, collecting their goods for others, etc. The Bible says there are three which testify--Father, Word and Holy Ghost--that's three, from where we get "tri-" and thus trinity. Each one is divine so it's the Holy Trinity.
albert wrote: btw,as a papist you should know that the word protestant is derived from the laten meaning"standing for a witness"and our Lord and Saviour said"ye shall be my witnesses"(Acts 1-8). Maybe now you will see that the protestant was arround long before the papish church of rome. We don't like to make up dogma as we go along.
Inconsistent says: "Calvinist theology is the Sovereign choice of God deciding for a particular man=Christ does the keeping." Yep, sounds like what Jude says beginning wth "Sanctified by God the Father and preserved in Jesus Christ" and ending with "unto him who is able to keep you from falling." I wonder who keeps me from falling? Not me, that's for sure .
Amen, Wayne to your post below. The three-fold enemy is the world, the flesh and the devil. However, "the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation," and "they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh."
Abigail, I'll base my faith on the testimony of the scriptures instead of observations and experience. Anybody following lawlessness really does not know what righteousness by faith is. Same applies to those who put works before faith. The Apostles had to fight both views. Have a good evening .
Jessica, I think you misunderstood my words. People like to control other people with their ideas of holiness. It becomes law. Some say men should have beards while others say no. That's all I meant. If you and your husband have some set of rules to guide both of you or to maintain peace in the home, that's fine.
Abigail, I know the scriptures you posted. I'm talking about what I've heard beyond the scriptures. A lot of churches have their own idea of what is modest, women are not to cut their hair, men don't have beards(others insist on beards), and so on....
I agree about headcoverings for women and men taking off the hat.
JD, one point on which Arminians would disagree both with you and Calvinists is the assurance of salvation. Arminians confess a believer can lose salvation.
JD, thanks for the warning. One big warning you all gave(and which I felt convicted of myself) was my leaning toward a salvation by works instead of faith. That has been clarified and my position is on a more sure foundation and faith has a more central place in my understanding of grace. There's one part of the TULIP I think most of us agree on, whether Calvinist or not---the P...Preservation of God's children, the saints, something I opposed but was silenced by the Apostle Jude who testifes we are "preserved in Jesus Christ." Who am I to oppose God? There it says plainly how safe(and saved) the faithful are. Thanks for the warnings JD, Lurker, Seaton, and all who confess the same. If salvation by grace through faith is true, preservation logically follows and we have the testimony from the Apostles in Jude 1.
Concerning universalism, I came to the conclusion that if Limited Atonement was not true, then universalism must be true. However, we know from the testimony of scripture not all benefit from the Atonement, thus it's limited. Only believers receive the salvation and cleansing it provides.
Col. 2:18. Thanks Albert. It sounds like even in Paul's days there were people with the same thinking as today's Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, observing days for a saint, angel, paint pictures of them, making them statues, etc.
Thanks Abigail for showing where you are regarding fruits of the Spirit. I agree too. Fruit is the true evidence. The seed planted in our hearts should grow into a fruitbearing tree. What's really reassuring is to know the Lord prunes the fruitbearers so they bear more fruit(John 15:1-4), so we know and confess it's all of God, not of us, "Not of works that no man may boast."
I agree, Seaton....with Spurgeon. A lot of my preconceived ideas about the Reformed faith were recently and continue to be shattered. Yes, salvation is of the Lord, from beginning to end, from that first repentance all the way to glorification and entry into heaven. Thank you. "Salvation is of the Lord"(Jonah 2:9)