Mar 4:3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow: ....And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up,...
Mar 4:13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables? Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word. Mar 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts. Mar 4:16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word,
immediately receive it with gladness;
Mar 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended. " Mat 13:20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon
with joy receiveth it;
Mat 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. "
Wow, "gladness, joy" in response to the word lead to quick growth.... but no root-- a good warning.
THIS is getting nasty- and it could get worse ( though Zogby thinks it will be a landslide one way or the other)
[URL=http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php/3995/Brannon-Howse/]]]269 tie: An electoral college 'doomsday'?[/URL]
On Nov. 5, the presidential election winds up in a electoral-college tie, 269-269, the Democrat-controlled House picks Sen. Barack Obama as president, but the Senate, with former Democrat Joe Lieberman voting with Republicans, deadlocks at 50-50, so Vice President Dick Cheney steps in to break the tie to make Republican Sarah Palin his successor. .......... Sound impossible? It's not. There are at least a half-dozen plausible ways the election can end in a tie, and at least one very plausible possibility - giving each candidate the states in which they now lead in the polls, only New Hampshire - which went Republican in 2000 and Democratic in 2004, each time by just 1.5 percent - needs to swap to the Republican column to wind up with a 269-269 tie.
1Ti 2:1-2 "I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. "
This has been pointed out for a while- [URL=http://blackgenocide.org/abortion.html]]]Black Genocide compared to Slavery, and the Final Solution
in a chart Comparing ABORTION to other forms of HISTORICAL GENOCIDE [/URL] all of the below apply to the 3 types of genocide
Personhood is always redefined to exclude the intended victim class.
Genocide often framed in the language of "choice."
Victim class tends to be people who have what we want or get in our way.
Victim class is often seen as a "disease" on society or as diseased themselves
Resources are inadequate to care for intended victim class if they are allowed to live.
------------------ This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
[URL=http://blackgenocide.org/black.html]]]site focus on Black Genocide[/URL]
[URL=http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20080925/NEWS01/80925009/1002/NEWS]]]Zogby says it could be a landslide.[/URL] Essentially the election is at equilibrium," said John Zogby, president of Zogby International. "This election will stay close until the end."
Zogby said he thinks the race will turn in the last weekend before Election Day and though the popular vote will be tight, the successful candidate will win in a landslide. He likened this year's election to the contest in 1980, when Ronald Reagan defeated President Jimmy Carter.
"This may be and probably is the most important election in our lifetime," Zogby said. "I don't say that lightly."
Despite two books by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, Americans still don't know enough about him. And if they don't think they know him well enough by the time they vote, they'll go with the "comfortable old shoe," Republican Sen. John McCain, Zogby said.
If Obama can convince voters, he'll increase turnout among young people and minorities, Zogby said.
Zogby later added that if the winner doesn't kick off his presidency with a period of reform, he will risk alienating a generation of voters."
Landslide sounds good- It would be better to have a clear outcome, vs hanging chads....
DJC49 wrote: Acts 20:28 showing the "incorruptability"
It's unfortunate that.. McGeown wrote "IS OF ANTICHRIST AND HIS SPIRIT."
Paisly thinks the blood of God is incorruptible(as it is divine)Ac 20:28, as do, Greer,Martin,Cairns, Hyles,Hymers,the Bob Joneses,Bell,Waite,M.R.De Haan, Evans.
JLincoln's side calls Henry M Morris a heretic! 9/28/08 4:48 PM
happy to see you don't agree with McGeown that above are ANTICHRISTs- (but now HM Morris is a heretic?)
I was clear in the post you responded to, by use of the brackets, I said "McGeown, in trying to deny the text, cites Calvin, but, to use McGeown's own words "It is not wrong to quote from uninspired writings, but it is a mistake to take [Calvin] literally, if [Calvin] is erroneous ...." by the way, McGeown's quote here is about hymns"
Using McGeown's logic, which is that use of ANY uninspired source,[hymns, Calvin, Waite, McGeown] can't trump biblical wordS.
McGeown uses Calvin to label the word "God" as 'improperly' applied to "blood" though Luke,quoting Paul,says"feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.‚ÄĚ Ac 20:2
Morris DOES quote Gen 3:15(11 verse in link) when you label him a heretic- why's that? You aren't slothful,are you, DJC49?
[URL=http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/21/archbishop_backs_evolution/]]]Archbishop of Canterbury backs evolution[/URL] The Archbishop of Canterbury has condemned the teaching of creationism in schools. ..Rowan Williams said the Biblical creation stories do not belong in the same category as evolutionary theory.
Apostate snake Rowan's 'truth of the Universe'-evolution -leads to bankers living by the 'survival of the fittest'.
Hey, it is a dog-eat-dog world out there Rowan! You've already given up on the wordS of God, starting from the 1st verse!
Rowan's just doing buisne$$ Jn 2:13b "Jesus went up to Jerusalem. And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise."
Mtt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
...7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand.."
Paisley writes, ‚ÄúThe blood that coursed in the blood vessels of the holy incorruptible body of God Incarnate while He was on earth was as holy and incorruptible as the flesh of the body itself.‚ÄĚ based, of course, on the wordS of God- Acts 20:28: ‚ÄúTake heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.‚ÄĚ
McGeown, in trying to deny the text, cites Calvin, but, to use McGeown's own words "It is not wrong to quote from uninspired writings, but it is a mistake to take [Calvin] literally, if [Calvin] is erroneous ...." by the way, McGeown's quote here is about hymns, which he disparages as if they were "unbiblical"- ignoring Eph 5:19 and Col 3:16.
And Calvin was RIGHT about Heb10:19 ‚Äúenter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus‚ÄĚ:
"He afterwards marks the difference between this blood and that of beasts; for the blood of beasts, as it soon turns to corruption, could not long retain its efficacy; but the blood of Christ, which is subject to no corruption, but flows ever as a pure stream, is sufficient for us even to the end of the world. "Calvin
I Pet 1:18-19" not redeemed with corruptible,... but with the precious blood of Christ."
Anna wrote: the Genesis curse which Jesus came to rectify. (however the pain in childbirth bit has not been reversed !!!)
the curse is still not reversed-
"No more let sins and sorrows grow , Nor thorns infest the ground , He comes to make his blessings flow Far as the curse is found , Far as the curse is found , Far as , far as the curse is found .
He rules the world with truth and grace , and makes the nations prove the glories of his righteousness"...etc. This won't be true until His return...we get confused by singing this song (out of context) about the first coming -that is NOT the point of the hymn. The links I gave 9/26/08 10:00 AM to 1. Jezebel's cousins-- an excellent message!!! and 2.on Feminism : the O.T. was written for US to learn from their mistakes and 3.9/25/08 3:21 PM Neither Male Nor Female: Question Over Feminism 4.9/25/08 11:54 AM Civil Magestrates
all point out that aspects of the curse that are still around, thorns, sweat of the brow in tasks, (as you say, pain in childbirth), serpents still eating dust, point to the "women were to be ruled by their husbands " still being in effect. (As Titus reiterates).
"In this fallen world, protection of the man is a BLESSING not curse",(message#1)
Ian Paisley,Rev. John Greer,Rev. Thomas Martin & Dr. Alan Cairns and also Jack Hyles, R. L. Hymers, the Bob Joneses, Rod Bell ,D. A. Waite,Dr. J. Hymers, Jr,Dr. M. R. De Haan ,Calvin Ray Evans who all teach of Christ, that His blood was "divine and human" are "of antichrist and his spirit."
Wow! So, ml and DCJ49-think Cairns, Paisley,etc are antichrist(s)?
see 9/24/08 9:29 PM by EA..
blood of his cross Col. 1:20 faith in his blood Rom. 3:25 justified by his blood Rom. 5:9redemption through his blood Eph. 1:7; cf. Col 1:14; I Peter 1:17-18 nigh by the blood of Christ Eph. 2:13-cfHeb. 9:14 enter into the holiest by the blood Heb. 10:19sanctified with the blood Heb. 10:29sprinkled I Pet1:2cleansed I John 1:7 washed Rev. 1:5
all by the Blood- why? Acts 20:28: ‚ÄúTake heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.‚ÄĚ but don't believe your lying eyes... Calvin says blood is, "improperly' transferred to his(sic) divinity. So,Luke & Paul are wrong too about the Blood of God?
enough already Can you NOT read??? YOU said, "IT HAS BEEN SAID HE IS HARSH", echoing the author of the open letter- YOU WERE NOT "only" repeating what was said in the letter. YOUR inability to take responsibility for recommending the letter is what YOU NOT UNDERSTAND You do NOT need to be THE AUTHOR OF THIS LETTER! Do you comprehend my statement? Again, though you did NOT write the open letter -you recommended it, so please quit accusing Cloud,or own up to it. You quote someone else, and accept the quote as true, at which point those are YOUR words too. Now, Kenny is speaking from experience with personal interaction with Cloud, in context,- that tedious little apostates try the patience of Cloud.
recently others have accused you in posts here of writing "nonsense"9/5/08 ,9/6/08 being "patently absurd "8/31/08 "sounding like Pharisee"9/4/08 self righteous Pharisaical judgement 9/5/08now, IF I JUST QUOTED THEM as a good source as to your character, don't you have the right to say that I also am using those words to describe you?
Don't wimp out when posting 'open letter's condemning Brother Cloud, while telling us that we should not criticise MacArthur.
If you defended Christ as vigorously as you defend yourself you'd turn the world upside down.
THE SHEDDING "of blood" is not any other "SUBSTANCE" than the blood itself
This doctrine of no efficacy of blood is no different than the Roman Catholic doctrines of the "bloodless death" of Christ's body constantly needed as re-enacted in the Mass
[URL=http://www.kjv-asia.com/authorized_version_defence_verbal_plenary_preservation.htm]]]Preserved wordS[/URL] No one on the Authorised Bible project later denounced it,as Logsden, one of the founders of the NAS did [URL=http://www.preservedword.com/article.php?id=114&print=true]]]NASB Committee Member Frank Logsdon[/URL]
ONE that was... "better, or out of many good ones, one principal good one, not justly to be excepted against; that hath been our endeavor, that our mark.‚ÄĚ [URL=http://www.learnthebible.org/king_james_translators.htm]]]King James Translators[/URL] The Preface says that it is not justly to be accepted against
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=110075182 REASONS for the use of the Authorised Bible today
Jarrell Sodomites CAN'T HAVE marriage - IT hurts EVERY one BY attempting to redefine marriage (PUBLIC LIARS). Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Sodomy offers the celebration of perversion that leads to DISEASE and ULTIMATELY, HELL
monogamy, BY DEFINITION, MEANS ONE WOMAN mono one gamos woman (so the other one of the couple must be one MAN).
And by the way, if you're going to celebrate diversity, what is more diverse, 2 different genders, or all the same gender? Diversity in marriage means a man and a woman, not the perversity of Californicate non-law.
Sodomites can't procreate to make families or children,
and God condemns(Lev.18:11)& hates Sodomites(Ps.11:5), & their perversion-
I admire those who are fasting and praying against same-sex `marriage' because they are doing the right thing. They also need to change Calif. laws. [URL=http://www.covenantnews.com/rudd060607.htm]]]Sodomy is a capital crime-they should be executed[/URL]
Slavery,subjugation of women, segregation are all condemned by the the Bible-though many are ignorant of this.
Two questions, DCJ49: 1) If Christ, after having shed none of His precious blood on the cross, had DIED -- (tying men to crucifixes happened frequently-they died from exposure/asphixiation) -- would His lack of blood been of no issue whatsoever as far as our redemption and salvation is concerned?
"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission."Heb.9:22
2) If Christ had shed NONE of His precious blood on the cross yet DIED, could we, as believers, then enter into the Holiest and have a right into God's throne room of grace?
For once, DCJ49, stop whining about my answering questions as I wish, even answering a question with a question, as did the Lord Jesus Christ. Answering directly in my OWN words and citing Godly men, prevents giving a weak solitary opinion and doesn't waste time with lack of agreement with Godly men. YOUR answer doesn't interest me, God's answer does.
Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety. Prov. 11:14 Without counsel purposes are disappointed: but in the multitude of counsellors they are established. 15:22
Christiana wrote: Love overcame a multitude of sin.
"Cosette, do you hear? he has come to that! he asks my forgiveness! And do you know what he has done for me, Cosette? He has saved my life. He has done more--he has given you to me. And after having saved me, and after having given you to me, Cosette, what has he done with himself? He has sacrificed himself. Behold the man. And he says to me the ingrate, to me the forgetful, to me the pitiless, to me the guilty one: Thanks! Cosette, my whole life passed at the feet of this man would be too little. That barricade, that sewer, that furnace, that cesspool,--all that he traversed for me, for thee, Cosette! He carried me away through all the deaths which he put aside before me, and accepted for himself. Every courage, every virtue, every heroism, every sanctity he possesses! " "That is the way God apportions things. He is there on high, he sees us all, and he knows what he does in the midst of his great stars. I am on the verge of departure, my children. Love each other well and always. There is nothing else but that in the world: love for each other."
"The night was starless and extremely dark. No doubt, in the gloom, some immense angel stood erect with wings outspread, awaiting that soul."
You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard
eating blood prohibited , in the New Testament.
"You shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes" part of prohibition of Idol worship, and fortune telling is demonic, as identified in the N.T. Acts 16:16-18
Acts. 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. finally- [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1210362019]]]The Beard, its Historical and Biblical Significanc[/URL] visual separation of the sexes and symbol of male headship is fully explored
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=640784558]]]Nothing to lose at the Bema seat? MacArthur WRONG[/URL] majority of the American Evangelical movement is blithely ignorant of the potential for LOSS at the Judgement Seat of Christ.
The popular tone of the church today is that the Bema Seat judgement does not apply to me, and if it does I will have nothing to worry about since all of my sins are already paid for.
And as Waite points out, Brother MacArthur and those who cast aspersions on the blood will lose rewards.
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?keyword=blood&entiresite=true]]]Blood of Christ[/URL] the believer has liberty to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus. His blood is our right into God's throne room of grace. Christ blood is our access to our heavenly Father. When you cry, "Abba, Father" it is Christ's blood that guarantees your loving Father hears you. All the believer's privileges with God are by the blood of Christ. Sinner's saved by grace cannot say too much about the blood of our Redeeemer!
Heb. 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus.
Sloppy'scholarship onliests' who only have "95% of the original" won't care about this.
Christiana wrote: I don't look at your links anymore. They just make me angry. I had a favorable image of Knox before you started with your posts.
WOW , So the links to men giving a calm expositon of His wordS make you mad??
not a good sign... "a girl convinced against her will is of the same opinion still."
and, by the way, Inspector Javert's self-sacrifice into water has always evoked the metaphor of baptism into the death of the Lord Jesus Christ, who took on Himself the Law.
(which is why NOW we can serve Him in grace, and by the power of the Holy Ghost, accomplish His will, as seen in his law.)
Rom.8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 8:9 But ye are not in theflesh , but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."
FUNNY, I kind of picture you as Madame Magloire ! or do you see yourself as Fantine? actually, given your ideology, you might think of yourself as
Jean Val Jean! (how much can you bench?)
but...let us see, in defense of my position I cite....God's word.. a whole lot of it when you include the Blast against the unnatural rule - [URL=http://www.swrb.com/newslett/actualNLs/firblast.htm]]] of women[/URL] and a number of sermons here, including [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=323048584]]]Jezebel's cousins-- an excellent message!!![/URL]
and you cite...
now there's an intelligent ad hominem...
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=94071659161]]]see this on Feminism : the O.T. was written for US to learn from their mistakes[/URL] 1 Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1- Feminism and Child Rule 2- I'll Do it My Way in the Area of Worship 3- Tell Us what We WANT TO HEAR
Do these color your hermaneutic? Or are you reading the bible with Victor Hugo's commentary? 'the Jean Val Jean version'
18:1-10A At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus,saying,Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,And said,Verily I say unto you,Except ye be converted,and become as little children,ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me,it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.Woe unto the world because of offences!for it must needs be that offences come;but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee,cut them off,and cast them from thee:it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. And if thine eye offend thee,pluck it out,and cast it from thee:it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye,rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; ..."