I belive our friend Biblical Calvanist is not trying to insist that there are Biblical and Unbiblical Calvanists, but rather, that Calvanism is Biblical. But just as I said earlier, there are unBiblical people in every denomination or doctrinal group, and that never decides whether a doctrinal creed is wrong, rather, the Bible decides whether that doctrinal creed is wrong.
Your moniker suggests that there are unbiblical Calvinists. How can that be since you insist that they strictly adhere to the Scriptures?
Dear Troll Spotter,
Just as in every doctrinal group, there are some people who do not hold to scripture. There are Armenians who do nold to scripture, does that mean that Armenians as a whole are unbiblical? I personaly do not believe Armenians are fully doctrinaly correct being a Calvanist, and believing that sinful man alone cannot and will not choose the right path. Do I believe Armenians are going to hell because they're not 100% doctrinaly correct? Of course not! So you'r argument that if their are a few people who call themselves a certain doctrinal group that are not biblical, fires back on yourself, whatever doctrinal group you belong to!
P. S. There is scriptural citations for Calvanism, and I'm sure we can all give you some if you wan't. Not quite sure if you are arguing against Calvanism or just pointing out that we're not defending it well enough, but in either case, I'm sure many of us here will be more than happy to site the scriptures!
John Yurich USA wrote: The Pope does not claim to be the earthly leader of Protestants also. That would be stupid to claim that as Protestants have as their earthly leader their ministers.
The Pope claims that the Protestants caused schism in the "church" and as erring children he wants them to come back to the fold in repentance. Why would he say such a thing if he did not still see himself as their continuing head who is still pining with unrequited love for his errant children?
I agree 100% Troll Spoter! Just warning you though, that John Yurich is Catholic, close minded, and you will have a very hard time swaying him. I've been praying for him to come to the light, and I believe that prayer is the most effective weapon for this situation. Just wanted to say that!
Since when did the people become the jury? Now this man, even if proven innocent, will have to deal with people who want to kill him and his family because the media spun things out of proportions and made this a much bigger thing than it actually was, sometimes even incouraging the protests/mobs! One guy who wasn't even involved got beat to within an inch of his life by a mob of black people because they had heard of the Ferguson shooting. Not to say it was the medias fault for that, it was those peoples faults. But the exagerated news coverage can't help anything, especially when they're making this cop out to be a villain. We don't know, he may have purposefuly targeted the guy, or he might have shot him in self-defense! We simply don't know!
Thanks Troll Spotter! Is there any way to search for posters post history on the Android app? Why I!m asking is that I'm working off this app, and when I tried to search for him with the search button at the top of the screen next to the download button and so on, it only searched sermons and not posts! I'll try to figure out other ways!
Lurker wrote: But its a fact that many professing churches use the secular definition of freewill in the hope of increasing their baptisms and denominational membership.
SteveR replied: With your argument that some Reformed Churches do not properly define what they mean by certain words to build membership accepted...
Notice that Lurker says nothing in his/her post about Reformed Churches, yet in SteveRs rebudle he claims she was talking about Reformed Churches when, if you look closely, she was reffering to churches that profess to be churches even though there is not much meat to be found!
Why are you calling SteveR wicked? Are you calling him wicked? Just because people disagree doesn't make one righteous and the other wicked. I'm sure you know and understand that, I'm just wondering if I've missed something!