Mike wrote:
If you ever go to a doctor for medical care or a dentist for a cavity, to a teacher for education, or to a mechanic to service your car, you have trusted in man. And I doubt many make sure they are Bible believers first. I see no difference in choosing a political person to do a political job than in any of the above to do theirs. "Trusting in man" as an excuse to avoid a responsibility that God has in fact privileged us with, is just that, an excuse.

Mike wrote:
And here we were thinking you were opposed to Christians being involved in politics. Glad you've come aboard, Jim.

I know you're not referring to me. But,
I'm not involved in politics to the extent of voting. I make comments related to the shaping of our minds by those trusting in man.

Now to GSMontana,

This relates to my response to the article about Ben Carson. I did it again - used the strawman argument in posting about Ben Carson. I really see that now after it posted.)

So then, I guess I'm wondering if Ben understands how we are influenced to the degree we trust one person's word/philosophy over another's. In this instance, him being influenced by Ellen Whites beliefs over Hillary being influenced by
Saul Alinksy?

Jim you said

“ If Mr. Carson wanted to consider luciferian people , he needed to go no further than Donald Trump.”

You perhaps don’t know or forgot the late Ellen Gould White of SDA. She got a lot from Lucifer and SDA (Seventh Day Adventist) adherents aren’t discerning of its source.

If Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon, can believe SDA’s doctrine of demons, conjured up by a mentally ill prophetess- so-called, what other use does he think the brain has?

Mike wrote:
Exactly right, ladybug.

It seems that I lacked the depth of understanding needed get to the real issue.

GSMontana wrote:
Tell ya what Nosey, you quit making strawman arguments, then we'll talk.

My brother accused me years ago of the same tactic. I had no idea of what he meant and did not bother to seek clarification. So after your post, I looked up the word, or phrase, and much to my surprise discovered my ignorance of using this tactic.

So, I am stepping back and looking more closely into what I'm missing. I want to be as objective as possible. At times it is hard.

Hopefully, I'll do better commenting on topics.

It is never too late to learn THEY SAY.

GSMontana wrote:
I don't know how any thinking human being could vote for Hillary

Cease ye from man, whose breath [is] in his nostrils: Isa 2:33 and

Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,
(2 Co. 6:17)

Why think the ballot has more power than prayer and preaching the Gospel?

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 1 Co 1:24

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matt 28:19, 20)

But of course, unregenerate man knows more than God. Perhaps many now side with Stephen Hawkins - "not need God anymore."

Minds need to be renewed. The world is fashioning too many stiff necked people.

All Believers are ministers of reconciliation. Believers reconcile others to the Truth. Our trust is in the Truth.

For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now lets [will let], until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth (2 Thes 2:9-13)

Wicked post? Just a statement of facts.

“…beautiful women?” You must be kidding! The beauty you claim Trump’s women have are merely fig leaves. Their beauty is manufactured to say the least. Research the cosmetic industry and churches filled with hypocrites who go after flesh. Are these women simply meat leading others to a slaughter? Or are they souls? Or, are they simply works of art men have made; like Mona Lisa? Oops! I mean Barbie? And the other B in the music industry.

I can't understand why men just don't buy a supply of makeup and make their own puppets? Its cheaper. Cold, but cheaper and they don't talk back. Actually, it provides stock options.

Don’t know who the first Samaritan evangelist was. But how does that justify anything or another’s behavior?

BTW, did you understand how Giuliani would solve the unemployment problem?

Wayfarer Pilgrim wrote:
Rudy Gulliani gave the best speech, followed by Marcus Latrell. Seeing Rick Perry speak made me wish for a chance at alternative history, One where Rick Perry is president and Gulliani is head of homeland security. But, this is not the case. But one thing is for certain, last night was about the utter failure of the elite republic to provide justice for all. Marcus Latrell is right, our war is here, now. I have family in the national security business, if they set up a server in their basement for the purpose of taking secrets from our government and then dispersing it to their minnons and to their own 250 million dollar slush fund, they'd being in a khaki jumpsuit in Levenworth for their life.

Don't believe me? Check out speeches when he ran for president.

As for Melania, doesn't her white attire stand for anything?

especially according to God's word that is forever established and will accomplish His work and will effectively.

We do it His way for His glory.

Psa 115:1, 13 Not unto us, O LORD, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory,

Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, I am not as other men

Jas 3:2, 9-11 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. ... Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the IMAGE of God. Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. ,… these things ought not so to be. Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

2 Thes 3:2 PRAY that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.

Those believers continuing to believe 2 Cor. 4:2 have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully;

1 Ti 2:1-2 exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for ALL MEN; For kings, … all that are in authority;

Observer wrote:
Proverbs 10:21 The lips of the righteous feed many: but fools die for want of wisdom.

BTW I am a "yunzer" and not a "ya's,"

Your righteousness seems insufficient when comes to the grammar you chose in responding.

Observer wrote:
Us old 'uns on here were raised up proper because manners maketh a man.
I'm butting in - that's plain rude!
May I butt in? - ya's still asking permission
Please permit me to interject and offer my point of view .... reasonable and polite.
Now if ya's familiar with the Bible ya should know about Leopards
Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
That ain't a good place to be and there can be no pressing toward the mark cos ya ain't even on the starting line. That be like one person on here who's ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth.
Hope for ya sake that that was just a slip up. If not, then the advice to get your life sorted would be
YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN!
Hope that helps.

Mike wrote:
Rom 14:4- Regarding the prez, who is the other man's servant?
1 Peter 3:10- Post the guile that was posted by another regarding the prez.
Titus 3:1- The prez isn't a magistrate, he's the CEO of the Executive branch
Titus 3:2- Speaking the truth should never be labeled speaking evil.
Identification of what is true is better than careless use of Scripture.

Observer wrote:
Why ask the question is ya's gonna do it anyway? Shouldn't ya have waited to get permission?

I admit, I am like a leopard - seeking to change the way I think and approach issues, but it seems that my life is full of errors. I should have stated "I'm butting in. Or, may I butt in!

GSMontana wrote:
He made a list of people he'd appoint not too long ago.
I see Trump as a wild card, we're aren't really sure what we'll get. With Hillary, there's no doubt. He wouldn't my first or even tenth choice, but Ill take a chance with him over Hillary.

I know this is not about justice Ginsberg.

However, is Trump not insulting the older generation because they think differently than himself?

I was myself thinking that anyone above the age of 60 should not be in such high positions. They usually cannot keep up with technology. Imagine electing a 70 year old president not in tune with progress.

Also, will we be dealing with nepotism based on what we are witnessing before our eyes?

Off subject! Will Comey investigate how senators and congressmen handled important information processed on their personal servers? Why is no one talking about this?
Even on this board? Is Hillary the only "extremely careless" person being investigated? If she, being younger and more skilled than many senators and congressmen made this blunder, what have older officials done? Huh?

Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?

Kev wrote:
Satan himself used scripture.

What are you inferring? Would Satan have you to disobey the following scriptures?:

Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judges another man's servant? to his own master he stands or falls. Yea, he shall be held up: for God is able to make him stand.

1 Pe 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

Tit 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Some followers of Jesus did so only to "catch him in his words."

GSMontana wrote:
NOSEY writes:
Suppose what the outcome would have been if the media said "two men were killed or shot" by two police officers?
How do you think it would have been received?
The media pushes the race issue to keep us divided. Check out Sal Alinsky's Rules For Radicals and you'll see why Obama and company are purposely dividing this country.

The country has always been divided. Because individuals, or groups, don't get their way, the vote to get politicians on their side.

Radicals want law and order just like others want law and order. But they want to make the laws and order others to obey. Ironically, it impacts entire colorless societies.

Radicals are noisy, and often disruptive, in their demands for change. Those opposing them do it in secret where the average person has no access to how they make change.

Now a true radical would go against the culture with the Gospel. For the Gospel has more power than any group. It takes fear out of our relationships. It gives us the power to love, to be courageous, and to think soberly.

say pal wrote:
did you know neither policeman, who defended their lives at the times of the incidents, were white?

How do you think it would have been received?
Would the response have been different? There is a good chance it would have been, realizing that Americans, only Americans were involved.

"Two Americans lost their lives here on American soil at the hands of two American officers." How does that sound? Does race make a difference? Or does race make a difference?

What happened to "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

I wonder what Noah would have to say about family disputes?

Moses wrote:
Excuses excuses.
Obama Hillary Demoncraft Clinton government has been always in opposition against Christianity even in their own turf The USA.
If Hillary wins the presidency, much more pain for Christianity.

How is it that DC is so quiet now? Are we at a greater risk than before Clinton's three emails slipped through the cracks?

Also, how is it that as Trump was losing support these shooting incidents occurred? So now he can tout "I am the Law and Order" candidate? Coincidence? What was he before? Don't we all want law and order?

What we don't want is oppression and our elected officials continuing to line their coffers gained through trickery and lying.

We've heard this law and order candidate say that the minimum wage is already too much. Who do you think you are to think your wages won't eventually become the minimum.