John, I'm sure it did and you were right..people forget there are two sides to God( at least that's what I've understood to be true) one is love and redemption and if that's rejected then we have wrath and judgement as a result.
Well, sorry about that..I thought I read that he called them hypocrites and vipers..like white washed tombs with dead bones inside..threw the money changers out of the temple because God's house was suppose to be a House of Prayer and they had made it into a den of thieves..this is all coming from memory so if I'm wrong please feel free to correct me..yes died for those who put Him to death..did He not say"Father forgive them for they know not what they do"?
They did not accept what was clearly foretold in Isaiah..so the religious rulers and teachers did not want to believe that Jesus was the Messiah and they had a rigged trial with false witnesses to condemn Him to a cruel death on the cross.
Btw, He was not a friend to the self righteous. hypocrites of that day which of course was the pharisees and religious leaders of that day..the ones that called Him a heretical imposter..sound familiar? You see they were looking for Messah that would deliever them from the Roman rule..they did accept Him as this suffering Saviour sent from God so they had Him killed. Jesus did not run with them but He won those sinners that were seeking a saviour..that could see their need to be saved.
Gs, Billy Graham was making a joke when he said that about Clinton and Hillery running the country( at least I Hope he was kidding around about Hillery now if Clinton who actually may have the gifts to be an evangelist would get saved then great) all who are pointing fingers in this thread..just wait, your turns coming on another thread when you are in disagreement with these same people that you are in agreement with..you see, what you sow, you reap You will be judged according to the judgement you give to others. Maybe Billy Graham believes you can catch more flies with honey than vineger..or Proverbs; A soft answer turns away wrath..as far as this country goes, just what do you think they are trying right now..his last message to America! So of corse the devil is going to rear his head up and whisper in our ear..don't believe him..he said this ..he did that. Jesus was a friend of the sinners..he was critized for allowing Mary Madaglene wash his feet with her tears ,dried them with her hair..read your Bible, get the story straight before you spew out false information.
Cont.for each day's lessons to be discussed in the next weeks meeting together..songs were sung..had a lecturer and notes to take back home and hopfully help clear up any thing with more questions to answer..really neat and this is where I learned God's love for me and did not have to work to earn or keep my salvation.The Holy Spirit drew me to Jesus and He has keep me in Christ and one day He will take me home to be with Christ.
I totally agree with Pam..I've tried to explain this in another thread..but did not say it in the same way..I said doctrine being different in different churches..anyway, in the Bible Study Fellowship classes we not allowed to get on rabbit trails with each person having their own beliefs taken from one or two scriptures. It led to dissension and discord among the brethen..actually I don't know how it worked but it did..maybe because there were questions we were given for each day
I've belonged to the Assemblies of God and you did not have to speak in tongues or be baptized again if you came from another church..I was not aware that the Pastor had to speak in tongues but I am sure he had to be filled with the Holy Spirit after all that's one of their doctrines..why are they growing because people are tired of a watered down gospel, that really believes what the Bible says and helps people's faith not try to tear it down. No gays in their church, unless there is salvation through repentance, to be married in or child care workers.
No it was not.. doctrine is what each church's interpertation of the scriptures are. Baptist immerge..Methodist sprinkle..Church of Christ the water washes sin away and no musical instruments allowed in worship...Pentecost speaking in tongues, gifts of the Spirit still used today..Catholics who knows what all they believe. All, I know is where I am spiritually and like the song says,"I know in whom I believeth and that He is able to keep that which I have commited unto Him against that day"..Here's some good advice ; We've been called to be witnesses, not lawyers or Judges..God Himself doesn't propose to judge a man until he is dead. So why should you? Be ye fishers of men. You catch'em- He'll clean them. Maybe you see things differently than me..that is fine with me, I will love you all the more.
I refuse to argue or debate on theology ,here on this forum..I am friends with Jews, Catholics, Penetecost, rich people, poor people, gays, Methodist, Presbyterian and Church of Christ. You see I went to Bible Study Fellowship for 10 yrs. And it was interdenomational..I might be in a class with Catholics, Church of Christ, a Mennonite and it was all women( had classes for children ) and classes for men at night. No doctrine was allowed to be discussed, only the Bible that had been read the week before and that was a chapter a week. You could actually feel the Spirit in each woman and the true love of God could be felt. Even now I cannot argue about doctrine because I saw God's love in each one of these woman and our leader also.
Aren't you glad that Jesus loved you even while you were lost and HE took all your sins upon Himself at the cross and died for you? You don't have to clean yourself up to be saved? That He will, through the Holy Spirit given to you,the power to live for Him. He died for you..won't you live for Him? I thank Jesus for the Love that sent Him to the cross..he took my place that I might not die in my sins.
What's the reason we still hear about Martiin Luther, Billy Sunday, Jonathan Edwards, CH Spurgeon.( one of my favorites ), Oswalt Chambers ,another favorite, Dwight L. Moody, Amy Carmichael and many more..why are they still remembered and their wriitings still around and still a blessing to read..because of the media?!! God raised them up in a time that He meant for them to be raised up, for His own reasons. So he eats with rich people who may or may not be saved, so did Jesus." Jesus has always sought out sinners, called them to Himself, and redeemed all who respond. The Bible says," Where sin increased, grace abounded all the more"( Romans 5:20). Zacchaeus was a corrupt tax collector notorious for abusing his authority and cheating on a grand scale, someone we might call a white collar crimnal. Jesus took notice of him, loved him, and decided to go to his house for a visit. We don't havve a record of their heart- to- heart conversations,but we do know that Zacchaeus responded in open repentance and faith. Then and there, Jesus announced his salvation." The quotation came from the desk of Billy Graham..dated October 21,2013.
In the Methodist church, that has strayed so far from the truth of the gospel, that even some pastors no longer believe. I know because I attended one for a short time..they do not believe in the inerrant word of God..I listened to miracles explained away by the pastor..he stood in the pulpit and said Jesus was not really born of a virgin. So how could a child raised in that kind of preaching have any faith at all.I had toleave because I did not want them taught something that was so full of lies. My kiids were taught by me but I also wanted a church that was on the same page as me. My son went to college and never lost his faith..he is a nurse anethiastist ( puts people to sleep ).
I thought the same thing, Penny, when our kids were ridding the bus to school it got so bad that the driver sent letters home to all the parents about their behavior and this was in a rural area. I'll bet their bus was the safest to ride on, also. The muslim mother that got so upset..I'm sure she reaizes that only in America would she get by with this. Other countries like, China, Japan and muslims' have the children actually pray to their different gods.