Are they Presbyterian in name only? Couldn't be more obvious! I perceive the influences of Popery, Prelacy and Independency.

Sin left unaddressed, no matter whose will lead to blindness of their own sin, deadness of soul and formality and if there be any of the elect in that sad state, Fatherly discipline will follow. God's rod is effectual upon the bottom of all his elect one way or another.

Choose ye
Christ alone can say as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. Joshua as a type of the Head of the Father's house could therefore say: Jos 24:19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
Jos 24:20 If ye forsake the LORD, and serve strange gods, then he will turn and do you hurt, and consume you, after that he hath done you good.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/john-boehner-pope-francis-visit-washington-213454#ixzz3lLEIgKhG

I don't know why I didn't already know this, probably because I'm biased against Rome and for Israel. Not that I think BN (note-not BM to avoid confusion)is more sound theologically. He's not and he is my enemy for the gospels sake. It's just that I know what has been believed by the Church and God has shown me hope in His Word.

Get Real wrote:
just don't let it be a political thing unless it's directly affecting your ability to live life, we are speaking to personal tribulation, May god keep us all in His tender mercies.

Jerry if I rightly understand this is that you are saying in your post http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=10311485614 Martin Luther commentary Gal.6 'The school of prayer and deeper walking' 10/31/2014

Ladies before gentlemen. I was exhausted from ALL day canning thinking about everything as I worked. The house smelled so good but it was very hot and humid. Tomato skins and seeds were everywhere. I was trying to remember which seeds were which as I gathered them up for next year D.V. I rose to the smell of chili sauce, concerned I didn't see a post from you before I retired for the night. Your post greeted me this morning. In another context I'd tell you what I've learned from life and Scripture, but this isn't it. Would have been nice to talk chopping tomatoes together, the way it should be.

Are you sure 'be careful' (not me) is a fly in the ointment?

A little history from the former RB. There was in the 1980's a division in the RB Camp. I had learned from both pastors and respected both; Albert N. Martin and Walter Chantry, but I went with the A. N Martin side because of the relevance of the law for a believer's sanctification. My RB pastor had begun as a SB Convention Missionary and reformed, teaching us the doctrines of grace and place of the ML first from the WCF and later when a friendship formed with A. N. Martin the LBF 1689. Their were friendships between most in leadership of the reformed camp. I knew two brother's that were divided one going one way and the other the opposite. Divisions are not new, and they are usually about reformed doctrine, this has after all been going on for some time.

Christopher000 wrote:
... instead of fighting with worldly, human weapons and trying solve things with our own human intellect, understanding, and will. ..I think we tend to stand in the way at times.

When I was a younger woman, I used to walk with a friend by a river. We lived in the city and it was the only real place to stretch our legs. We discussed these texts. One day it broke in on me that if the Spirit was interceding with unutterable groanings because he knew my heart like only God can though I didn't understand why God was doing what my flesh didn't like, I could trust that even the hardest of things were for my conformity to the word and will of God. God re-educates his people.

Two texts:
Tit 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: (Paul to Titus)
Tit 2:2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
Tit 2:3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

Tit 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:
Tit 2:2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
Tit 2:3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

1Ti 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
1Ti 5:2 The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.

read James 4

Find Scripture to support; Let go and let God.

Yes, pray on but remember praying in the Spirit must be in agreement with the teachings of Scripture. This I say because of your shared background with different doctrines.

B. McCausland wrote:
Fine description.
Pleased to see your tender care and compassion for the friend in Wisconsin.

Trusting to be kept by the power of God 1 Peter 1:5-8

Britain currently only operates drones over Iraq and Syria but the number flown over Syria appears to be increasing rapidly. According to Drone Wars, the proportion of drones over Syria belonging to the UK has increased from 10% in January to 40% in May."

Papal Rome's influence has brought down God's just displeasure, on this nation but he has promised Romans 8:25-31. I fear you and I as women, lacking male oversight that doesn't worry us, are cast on our Elder Brother to guide us and especially to keep us from false teachers. It's been my experience He is able.

Though I have not shared all your trials, we have economic trials in common. Jesus Christ is the Great Physician and sin bearer, rest in that. Our soul is a higher faculty than our bodies and assisted by the Holy Spirit, it can rise above it to Christ's healing power over body and soul. Compare Eccles. 4:1 with Rev.14:12. I know why you were misled by the you tube video, I believe you need more truth and a Guide. Ps. 25:9; 73:24.

MS wrote:
Well mourner, Shawn touched on a few current issues...those who choose to listen will have to decide if it has relevance to them or not.
Why did you find it interesting that I ... recommended Shawn?

KD became a public person over night and it is unlikely I will ever speak to her. I will say her deportment under fire prior to her arrest was commendable. I don't know why I was surprised to hear her gentlewoman southern voice in the news clip, she is after all from Kentucky. Her trial does not appear to be over.

Exhausted wrote:
And he shall speak great words
against the most High,
and shall wear out the saints
of the most High,
and think to change times and laws:
and they shall be given into his hand
until a time and times and
the dividing of time
Daniel 7:25

Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; (compare Rev. 17:11)and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

MS wrote:
A timely reminder..
That Could Have Been Me.
Shawn Mathis
9/6/15.

Get Real wrote:
Mourner, For the life of me I can't remember our last conversation,

Memory problems can have a multitude of explanations. Now I associate panic with fear and inordinate fear with unbelief. Cure - the Blood of the Lamb.(repent) Rest in the promises. (believe) Here's one for you.

Isa 26:1-3 In that day shall this song be sung in the land of Judah; We have a strong city; salvation will God appoint for walls and bulwarks. Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in. Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

Barney, I agree 'domestication' is a problem with sin in the domicile. That said I have a cat and a dog; only the dog by choice. Dog's are loyal, cats have staff. But I am aware of the problems, as well as the mercy in it. Sin destroys everything it overcomes.

The Lord broke in upon one of those dark nights of the soul this morning in private worship, with a promise from Ezekiel. (2 Peter 1:2-11). It was a tender reminder his thoughts are not mine. They are so much higher. I am a critical thinker and my own worst critic. It's best to think on Christ's sympathies more then our sin. 1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Do I see her imprisonment as unjust? Yes! Do I think God reigns over all? Yes! I cannot know her election, I'd have to be God. I can only try to understand her doctrine, before acknowledging her as a sister. I believe our doctrinal differences cause this misunderstanding. I believe she could be an errant new convert, but even four years in serious error is concerning, which Arminianism is.

It is also concerning to me that she has taken an oath that I could not take neither imply I would, that is how I lost my job, ergo home. One document I refused to sign had the word covenant in it and when I questioned it. The interviewer had to admit a misuse of the word, but the form remained unchanged. Nit pik?