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USER COMMENTS BY YAMIL LUCIANO |
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9/19/07 6:52 PM |
Yamil Luciano | | Las. Vegas NV | | | | | |
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Cbcpreacher wrote: Yamil, but what does the word "election" mean in the Bible? Does it mean we vote for God or the devil? Does it mean that whoever is the most clever and persuasive, God or Satan, gets the sinner? Or does it mean, just maybe, that our sovereign God is able to "choose" from His own "free will" (for He truly is the only one with a free will) out of the mass of lost humanity (and every individual was lost because of the sin of Adam) a people for Himself? If God had not chosen some out of lost human race, NO ONE would have been saved! That, my friend, is grace! Well, it certainly does not mean unconditional election just like it does not mean presedential election.Almost in every instance election is in reference to service, not salvation. Nowhere in the Bible is salvation said or implied unconditional election. In fact, every major instance where salvation is explained it places conditions on those that should desire it. Do you believe that God is sovereign enough to decree conditional election? |
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9/18/07 9:08 PM |
Yamil Luciano | | Las. Vegas NV | | | | | |
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The Calvinist have a hard time praying for anybody. Why ask for something of a god that has all things predetermined?It's a tough predicament they are in. There is hope for them though. After all, they do have the Weapon of Mass Instruction eager to present them with the liberating truth. _______________________________________ I am on my way out on soulwinning. I want everyone to know that I probably will tell them of Jesus' saving love towards them. Odds are, that after they see it for themselves in the Bible, that they will believe it. And I do not have to create a complicated theological system to prove it to them neither. ______________________________________ A man in the hospital accepted the Lord as Savior yesterday. He was depending on him being a good person to get him to heaven. I told him that he must forsake that and embrace salvation as a gift from God apart from works. He did it. He prayed outloud and renounced his good works. I suspect that God counted his faith for righteousness. P.S. I also told him that Jesus loved him. Sorry, I could not help it after I kept running into it in the Bible. |
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9/17/07 3:48 PM |
Yamil Luciano | | Las. Vegas NV | | | | | |
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Lurker wrote: If it was not then all he needs to do is come out and state it. Somehow, like the previous accusation, I doubt a confession will change your mind, but here it is anyway:It was not me. Lurker wrote: It has come to our attention that Yamil has been posting comments posing as both 'Seaton' and 'Lurker'. We take moniker theft seriously and strongly discourage this kind of adolescent behavior On that occasion there was not a bluelock, and I also confessed that it was not me after you required me to speak up. After I asked SA to check the IP address, they were kind enough to unban me.Like with the Bible, I think you have a problem with accepting what one says at face value. In your linguo its called Sola Calvinism: do whatever it takes to promote Calvinism. Once again, your hipocrisy is exposed. So do yourself a favor: don't lecture anyone on integrity anymore. Since everyone wants to blame me, I think I might as well play the role. Thanks for the idea. |
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9/15/07 11:15 PM |
Yamil Luciano | | Las. Vegas NV | | | | | |
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Alan H wrote: As for your "conditional conjunctions," I have yet to see one which says, "Do so and so, and don't do this and that, and thou shall be elected." The idea is ridiculous and yet that is what you would affirm by your opinion... The only ridiculous thing about that is that "do this and that" is not a conjunction let alone a conditional conjunction.I prescribe you a good dose of EN 101. _______________________________________ Alan H wrote: "BUT WHAT ABOUT JOHN 3:16? 'FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD!'," it seems odd that you would oppose this premise, i.e. that God loves, and He elects upon no other ground whatsoever. Why won't you try giving us a verse that clearly states your assertion for starters.Then you can go ahead and learn something about the sovereignty of God. God can choose to decree conditional or unconditional election. It is his divine right. You have a hard time swallowing this because the devastating truth is that your god is as sovereign as your calvinistic box would allow him. The real question is, what does the scripture state. The hard answer is everything but unconditional election. And that's the way the cookie crumbles. |
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9/15/07 5:40 PM |
Yamil Luciano | | Las. Vegas NV | | | | | |
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Alan H wrote: ["-" Mine A .H.] If "salvation is of the Lord," how then can "election," Very simple. To some, the sovereignty of God is not merely an escape goat that one can pull out anytime a contradiction in their theology is exposed.There are some that trully believe in the sovereighnty of God, viz. He can choose to decree conditional or unconditional election. It is within his perfect right. The devastating truth is that God is just as sovereign whether he had decreed conditional or unconditional election. For one to say otherwise is to strip him of his sovereingty. This is the theological hipocricy behind Calvinism. The Calvinist begin to have a mental breakdown when the true question is asked: "What does the Bible state?" Well, God has created what is called conditional conjunctions to allow us to determine when a condition is in play. One of those is "if". "That IF thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." The devastating truth is that anywhere in the Bible that salvation is explicitly being taught, one will find conditions in play. That's why the Calvs have to go to other nebulous places. |
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