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 3/23/10 11:58 PM |
| Wayne M. | | northwest British Columbia | |  |  |
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Michael Hranek wrote:
The Bible is clear the seal of the New Covenant is the Holy Spirit.
Now a man might be circumcised and yet not have faith in Jehovah and likewise people might have their babies sprinkled (and lets not forget even be immersed themselves) and yet be eternally lost.
But everyone who is born again of the Holy Spirit is safe in Christ.  Michael, I couldn't agree more. Baptism is an outward sign of an inward work.But infants of believers should be baptized too. The promise of the covenant applies to them too. "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Matt. 19:14 Children are often children of God from the womb. "I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou are my God from my mother's belly." Psalm 22:10 |
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| 3/23/10 11:50 AM |
| Wayne M. | | northwest British Columbia | | | |
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Michael Hranek wrote:
Wayne M
 Whew! Losing me again.
First there is a difference and a vast one at that of children coming to Jesus versus somebody performing a "Roman Catholicistic Ritual" in their behalf... Michael, This has nothing to do with Catholicism. It has everything to do with the fact God made a covenant between the persons of the trinity. This covenant was an agreement that Christ would be a ransom for His people. God is sovereign Creator, and man is the creature. God owed nothing to the creature, but by "condescension" or grace, He has determined to save a people out of fallen mankind. "I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." John 10:14-16 "And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee." Genesis 17:7 The sign of being in the covenant at that time was circumcision. Today the sign and seal is baptism. |
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| 3/22/10 11:17 PM |
| Wayne M. | | northwest British Columbia | | | |
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Michael Hranek wrote:
Wayne M
Whew! you've really lost me there...babies so quilty of commiting sin they deserve hell. Michael,
I may not have been correct when I said the responsibility for Adam's sin is not passed to his posterity. In fact, the Belgic Confessions says through the disobedience of Adam original sin is extended to all mankind; which is corruption of the whole nature. Why would you think this does not apply to babies as well? If not, then why was Adam and Eve originally living in paradise without death and then after they sinned, everything changed? Are you saying all babies are not born with a corrupt, sinful nature? Nevertheless, the Lord can save them if it is part of His plan. I never said they go to hell.The reason why infants are baptized is because they belong to the covenant as well. "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Matt. 19:14 Believers have good reason to believe that, if their unborn, infants, or children die, they will go to heaven because they are part of the covenant. |
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| 3/22/10 7:54 PM |
| Wayne M. | | northwest British Columbia | | | |
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Michael Hranek wrote:
I have been wrestling on this one for awhile.
NO! If I understand what those promoting "original sin" to be, in my words, "God holds us personally responsible for Adam's sin, knowing wilfull disobedience in the fall." No! I do NOT believe that. The doctrine of original sin does not say that the responsibility for Adam's sin is imputed to all mankind. The Belgic Confession explains it this way: It is the fact that original sin is extended to all. Sin is a hereditary disease. The Pelagians reportedly said that sin proceeds only from imitation. This is not correct. The original sin of Adam is passed on like a disease so that even infants in mother's wombs are infected with it. All of posterity of Adam are fallen into perdition and ruin by the sin of our first parents."Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned;" Romans 5:12 However, sin is not imputed to the children of God, but by the grace and mercy of God, they are forgiven. "But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)" Eph. 2:4,5 |
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 3/4/10 2:56 AM |
| Wayne M. | | northwest British Columbia | | | |
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princecharles wrote:
Billy G is a universalist also, if you are 'converetd' by Billy G you are in big trouble BG may be a universalist, but if somone is genuinely converted at one of his crusades, I would not say it is not genuine. Don't forget God does the converting. God can also use men who have erred to bring sinners to himself. I know of a christian who was converted at a BG crusade (although I don't think BG was there himself) decades ago and he has attended church faithfully ever since. So I wouldn't be too quick to judge that situation. |
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| 2/6/10 7:14 PM |
| WayneM | | northwest B.C. | | | |
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Kingdom Citizen wrote:
Being that Christ has defeated death, by faith in him I win, unless I fall away of course. Salvation is of the Lord. Once God saves somebody they do not "lose" their salvation or "fall away" from salvation. That is an error of some sects. It also reflects an incorrect understanding of salvation which is entirely a work of God's grace.Canons of Dort, Article 3 says:
God Preserves His Own "By reason of these remains of indwelling sin, and also because of the temptations of the world and of Satan, those who are converted could not persevere in that grace if left to their own strength. But God is faithful, who, having conferred grace, mercifully confirms and powerfully preserves them therein, even to the end." "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified." Romans 8:30 KJV "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." John 10:28 KJV |
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| 11/9/09 11:22 AM |
| WayneM | | northwest B.C. | | | |
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Bert,The reason RCs are not saved is because there cannot be any true conversion without a knowledge of one's depravity on the one hand and Jesus Christ's work of redemption on the other. Those who believe and follow Romanism are believing a series of big lies. One example is the lie that one must atone for his own sins by participating in the Mass which claims to be an offering for sin. Man cannot ever make an atonement for his own sins. That is why God sent His Son into the world. Only Christ has the qualifications to act as a substitute for sinful man and pay the penalty, which he did. The only thing that can atone for sins was and is blood. "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." Leviticus 17:11 "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." Hebrews 9:22 Christ is the only saviour, not the RCC, not sacraments, not going to an earthly priest because there are none in the sense of offering sacrifice for sins today. Until this false system is rejected, and Christ is accepted as the one and only sacrifice for sins there is NO salvation. There is none other. |
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| 11/3/09 2:01 AM |
| WayneM | | northwest B.C. | | | |
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DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
That's what I have been saying all along, Wayne. God calls (draws, entreats) us to Jesus that we may believe and be saved. BUT, the decision to accept God's call or reject it is 100% ours. God does not force anyone. Bert,That's not correct. I may not have made it clear. Let me quote part of the Canons of Dort on this with Scripture reference. "Election is the unchangeable purpose of God, whereby, before the foundation of the world, He has out of mere grace, according to the sovereign good pleasure of His own will, chosen from the whole human race, which had fallen through their own fault from their primitive state of uprightness into sin and destruction, a certain number of persons to redemption in Christ, whom He from eternity appointed the Mediator and Head of the elect and the foundation of salvation." Canons of Synod of Dort (1618-1619) Part of Art.7 "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:" Ephesians 1:4 "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:" Eph. 1:11 |
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| 11/2/09 12:52 AM |
| WayneM | | northwest B.C. | | | |
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DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
The quotes you give from Ephesians are referring to the fact that God created Heaven for those whom He knew would believe. Bert,The Canons of the Synod of Dort affirm and the Holy Scriptures make plain: Para. 5 ""The Synod rejects the errors of those who teach: That the incomplete and non-decisive election of particular persons to salvation occurred because of a foreseen faith, conversion, holiness, godliness, which either began or continued for some time;... This is repugnant to the entire Scripture, which constantly inculcates this and similar declarations: Election is "not of works but of Him who calls" (Rom 9:11), "And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed" (Acts 13:48). "Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him" (Eph 1:4). "You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit shall remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you" (Jn 15:16). "And if by grace, then it is no longer of works" (Rom 11:6). "In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (1 Jn 4:10)."" |
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| 11/1/09 10:48 PM |
| WayneM | | northwest B.C. | | | |
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DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
The quotes you give from Ephesians are referring to the fact that God created Heaven for those whom He knew would believe. No Bert. That is contrary to Scripture and takes away from the sovereignty of God. If your reasoning were true, then God has no hand in determining who will be saved.But the apostle Paul travelled as a missionary only to places which God had ordained he should go. Some places the Holy Spirit forbid him to go. "Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia, After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not." Acts Ch16 vs 6,7 Notice also the Lord opened the heart of Lydia. "And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul." Acts 16:14 "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh." Ezekiel 36:26 Notice this is purely an act of a sovereign God. It is God who causes belief. |
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| 11/1/09 11:58 AM |
| WayneM | | northwest B.C. | | | |
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Michael Hranek wrote:
WayneM
Bert should rightly care less about what the "Councils of Dort" says and tremble at what God Himself says to us in Scripture.
 AND SO SHOULD YOU!!! Michael, dear brother, I believe the historic Reformed confessions from the Reformation period are an accurate summary of what the Bible teaches. As someone else said, when you speak, are you not interpreting the Bible as you see it? So what is wrong with me quoting learned men whom I believe are correctlly interpreting the Bible? I often also quote Scripture as well. Bert needs to recognize his fallen condition and need for the grace of God. He cannot earn his salvation. "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;" Ephesians 2:1 Does this mean that God does the quickening or can the sinner claim he had a part in it? When someone believes in the Lord Jesus Christ as his saviour, all praise and glory goes to God alone. The sinner can claim nothing. |
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| 11/1/09 12:41 AM |
| WayneM | | northwest B.C. | | | |
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Bert,While you are considering my post to you at 10:01PM, I will add to it here. It is clear God chose or predestinated those whom He would save. "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love," Ephesians 1:4 "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will." Eph. 1:11 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Eph. 2:8,9 So Bert, salvation could never be by works or you would have people in heaven who could boast of what they did to earn their way there. This verse (9) destroys that notion completely. It is all of grace. That is why we praise our Saviour for his wonderful grace in Christ. It is entirely His doing. That is what our hymns often sing about. As I said, there is liberty (free will), but because of our fallen nature, we are unable to do anything toward salvation. We lack the ability because we are dead in sins. "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;" Ephesians 2:1 |
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| 10/31/09 10:01 PM |
| WayneM | | northwest B.C. | | | |
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DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
Free will says that I can accept God's call or reject it. Bert,No, you do not have that ability apart from God's eternal decree. We have free will, but not ability. Mankind lost the ability in the fall. Fallen man does not have the ability to accept Christ unless God regenerates him. (John 3) Article 6 of the Canons of Dort says: God's Eternal Decree "That some receive the gift of faith from God, and others do not receive it, proceeds from God's eternal decree. "Known to God from eternity are all His works" Acts 15:18. "Who works all things according to the counsel of His will (Eph 1:11).
According to which decree He graciously softens the hearts of the elect, however obstinate, and inclines them to believe; while He leaves the non-elect in His just judgment to their own wickedness and obstinacy. And herein is especially displayed the profound, the merciful, and at the same time the righteous discrimination between men equally involved in ruin; or that decree of election and reprobation, revealed in the Word of God, which, though men of perverse, impure, and unstable minds wrest to their own destruction, yet to holy and pious souls affords unspeakable consolation." Ref. (Rom. 9:10-15; 1 Peter 2:8) |
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