Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not familiar with the term prevenient grace. Is it the same thing as Gods effectual calling? That seemed to be what I got out of John Uks posts. But Lurker seemed to be talking about something different.
Just trying to make heads or tails of the conversation.
I mean, I thought about when we first built âThe Dome,â I wanted to put some of those little moving bars and give everybody a little card. Theyâd stick it in a little computer slot. If they were tithing, beautiful music would go off and, you know, [Creflo sings] âWelcome, welcome, welcome to the World Dome.â [Congregation laughs.]
ButâŚif they were non-tithers, the bar would lock up, the red and blue lights would start going, the siren would go off, and a voice would go out throughout the entire dome, âCrook, crook, crook, crook!â [Congregation laughs.] Security would go and apprehend them, and once we got them all together, weâd line them up in the front and pass out Uzis by the ushers and point our Uzis right at all those non-tithing members âcause we want God to come to church, and at the count of three âJesusâ-es weâd shoot them all dead. And then weâd take them out the side door there, have a big hole, bury them, and then go ahead and have church and have the anointing.
Most frequently the word ekklesia designates a circle of believers in some definite locality, a local church, irrespective of the question whether these believers are or not assembled for worship. Some passages contain the added idea that they are assembled, Acts 5:11, 11:26; 1 Cor. 11:18, 14:19,28,35, while others do not, Rom. 16:4, 1 Cor. 16:1, Gal. 1:2, 1 Thess. 2:14 etc.
In some cases the word denotes what may be called a domestic ekklesia, the church in the house of some individual. Rom.16:23, 1 Cor. 16:19, Col. 4:15, Phil. 2.
In a more general sense the word serves to denote the whole body, throughout the world, of those who outwardly profess Christ, and organize for purposes of worship, under the guidance of appointed officers. This meaning is somewhat in the foreground in the first epistle to the Corinthians, 10:32, 11:22, 12:28, but also present in Ephesians, though in that letter the emphasis is on the church as a spiritual organism, especially Eph. 4:11-16.
- Louis Berkhof, Systematic Theology. (Edited for space)
To clarify, I have no problem with confrontation or even mockery when the situation calls for it. To me, this is not such a situation, especially since this article is not about Christians anyway. Their cartoon contest invites bloodshed, which is why I think it is uncalled for.
I didn't say they had to be Christian to stand against Islam, but for Christians to say what they are doing is right, and then bring up Elijah is a silly point if they are unbelievers. Scripture says there is a way we should answer every man, cartoon bafoonery probably isn't the correct course.
Colossians 4:6 Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
Parents just drop their kids off at church on Wednesday and Sunday and don't teach them at home or lead by example. What else should they expect? What's maybe six to eight hrs a week of influence at church compared to the 40hrs of influence at school? Not to mention whatever they are exposed to on the tv or internet.
Jim Lincoln writes: you will see it isn't the dispensationalists that have things confused.
The gospel has done away with the distinction the dispensationalist perpetuates.
Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Ephesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;