God loves you. Yes you. He died for you! He desires YOU to repent and come to his loving arms. There is no sin too deep where his grace cannot reach. And while others stammer at this truth, while others are relundant to scream it from the housetops; while some choke as they read it from the Holy Writ I want you to hear it from me.

God does not only love an elite few. No my friend. Rest assured: God loves you! God loves you! GOD LOVES YOU!!!

He can only be defeated in his purpose only if his purpose were other than what the Bible states:

"For God is not WILLING that ANY should perish but that ALL should come to repentance."

And since Thurant or any of his Calvinit friends are able to provide with a simple declarative statement to the contrary that supports their view that God simply and arbitrarily chooses some to heaven and others to hell against their will, then it is logical to conclude (besides that they are mentally unstable) that they are fighting against God himself.

There are many facters involved.

1. "If God wanted all men to be saved it would be, if God desires something it will be accomplished."

2. “God also tells man to keep the commandments but this is impossible for a man to do because he is totally depraved in his sin nature.“

If only it were Bible,huh.
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THE CURE

“Are you too dense to understand that Jacob's election over Esau was to service? Can't you read, "The elder shall serve the younger." Serve does not spell salvation”

Murray is so used to using scientific means to the preservation of Scripture that he makes absolutely no room for the Holy Spirit to lead the church into all truth.

That's why although he makes an accurate portrait of the historical settings upon which the KJV was born, he fails to acknowledge the Holy Spirit witness within the people of God in favor of an analysis based strictly on purely political factors.

I prescribe him I Timothy 6:20-21

The truth is found in John 3:16

Because that's not what the passage states silly. You make a connection where a connection does not exist.

How about, instead of ignoring the objections made you put on your reading glasses and offer a rebuttal for a change.

All you keep coming up with some more verses with more perverted interpretation. You can't stay in one passage and prove your unfounded assertions but much rather make more ridiculous assertions with more perverted interpretations that would not even make sense even in the context fo Calvinism.

"I never said Esau lost his salvation by selling his birthright for a pot of soup, but I do say that he was never saved to begin with."

But Jacob the liar was! I thought according to your perverted interpretation of Revelation 21:8, liars have no place in heaven? You are really screwed up in your head. Not only is your hermeneutic is messed up but you cannot even be consistent with your own system (if it can even be called that) of interpretation.

Now you are saying that Esau went to hell because he married a Canaanite woman?!?!?

If you read the terms of the birthright in Genesis 27 one will not find one of them being salvation. And can one imagine that. A man (Isaac) being endowed with the power to give salvation to whomever he will?

Kinda like the modern day Pope.

Then (as if the Contender's defense is not screwey enough) one has Jacob lying to obtain eternal life!

If one applies Contender's perverted interpretation of Revelation 21:8 to the whole story, God not only allowed a liar to enter heaven, but also, a liar who lied himself to heaven!

While Esau, who was falsely accused of being an unbeliever (for the fact that he came claiming his birthright demonstrates his belief), goes to hell because he wanted a bowl of soup!

Ha! Ladies and gentleman, can Calvinism get anymore ridiculous than that?