Candle Lit wrote:
I'd have to say that true joy is a gift given to all Christians, and some seem to reside in it more than others.

most christians in the west are secure and comfortable are their ideas the same as the Dalit people in india or the keren in burma ? somehow i doubt it i suspect that western christian 'joy' owes more to their temporal comfort than biblical inspiration

people are diffrent from dogs our degus have a fantastic life all they want to do is eat nuts n grapes all day. they dont know what i know

How is it possible for a christian to be at ease in the world ?

I dont mind saying that I am not, the flesh wars with the spirit for one on every level we are constantly under attack from godless influences our homes need to be spiritual fortresses we strive to even cross the finish line but are surrounded by multitudes who care less.

indeed some christians are not as joyous as others such as for instance the iraqui christians fleeing iraq

we are all supposed to be soldiers - what soldier rests in war ?

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Candle Lit wrote:
Hi, Charles,
Corgis, savage? How so?

How can one be joyful in this life when we know that the real joy is to come ? I have lots of good times but thats not joy thats simply pleasure thats just getting by which in any case counts nothing toward our eternal crown.

How can we be joyful when our neighbours and almost everyone we know will perish since we ourselves will barely be saved ?

Where is the joy in knowing that the Gospel is true and to hear it profaned and mocked by ignorant men every day and to see it being traduced (vogue and ms prejean) by those who claim it as their own.

Vogue wrote:
The Body of Christ should be very proud of this young woman! she is an example of being "persecuted for righteousness sake". May our Lord vindicate her in His own time and in His way.

the china missionaries
Mildred Cable
Eva French
Francesca French

or fanny crosby

yes she really made a difference denouncing homosexuality in forthright biblical terms quoting the appropriate scriptures and putting that greasy fag in his place and exposing him as an agent provocateur.

DJC49 wrote:
I can appreciate your apprehensiveness concerning the seeking of experiences for validation of faith & standing in the Lord. But you're going to have to make room for some "TALK OF JOY" in light of the fact that NT Scripture proclaims that:
"we also JOY in God through our Lord Jesus Christ" [Rom 5:11]

John UK wrote:
Maybe the prince can enlighten us, and chuck egg all over our faces, and say noooo noooo, nothing like that old chap!

'Lazarus sleeps' comes to mind

Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they will die; but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten

this does not mean the souol is inert and unconcius when the body dies, the bible does not teach that

it means the things of God are closed, they are spiritualy asleep

talk of joy sometimes makes me suspicious and can suggest works religeon - heres why, Paul talks of joy, there is no comparison between pauls life and any of ours

so then the idea of joy becomes subjective, anything from religeous hysteria to a comfort in the knowlege of the things of God amd people will interpret others in a scale of their own devising - not biblical. one fruit of this is the tendency amongst experiential religeonists to assses salvation in terms of experiences received so if you havent had those experiences well you need more faith etc, a potent brew of arminism and works religeon

John UK wrote:
Is that short for:
1. Predestination and Helection!
or
2. Protestants against Hypermen!

Vogue wrote:
The Body of Christ should be very proud of this young woman! she is an example of being "persecuted for righteousness sake". May our Lord vindicate her in His own time and in His way.

Candle Lit wrote:
vs. 3 "Therefore with JOY shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation."

DJC49 wrote:
In the case of the Sermon on the Mount, my memory associated NO specific number of people with it. And I'm mildly insulted and a bit bemused that you'd infer that I Google whatever I need to come up with when it comes to remembering Scripture.

CLT - I should have been clearer, before true repentance i got a clearer view of how God saw my condition, i was already a believer, but there are lots of believers in Hell sadly.

Believing in God is a no brainer, ditto that Jesus lived, thousands of people have to be liars to deny the historicity of Jesus.

If the creature thinks that simply acknowleging the fact of Gods existence and Jesus life and purpose is automatic salvation they are wrong.

They have faulty understanding of God.

Only repentance and faith are acceptable and these are gifts of God only

John UK wrote:
Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand.
Acts 4:4 KJV
Do we take it that only men were converted?

DJC49 wrote:
There's NO number of people given for the Sermon on the Mount! Only the words: "multitudes" and "the people" appears [Mt 5:1 & 7:28 respectively].
Now there's a BIG difference when the Scriptures state plainly that 3000 SOULS (that's a total head-count of every man, woman, and child) found in Acts 2:41 and where it says that: "about 5000 men, BESIDE women and children" were feed in Mt 14:21.

either way i humbly commend your posts and doctrine partly i confess because it is in tune with my own (even tho i suspect you of being flaky on 6 day creation - but you know this !)

John UK wrote:
Now then, what is extrapolation? That sounds worse than eisegesis.

to extrapolate is to process the given information in such a way as to have it conform to your existing presupposition or world view without reference to other controlling variables.

for instance the global warming crowd dont know what the temperature of the world will be ten years from now so they take the increase in temperature over say the last 40 yrs and assume that the rate of increase will be the same for the next forty years - this gives rise to al gores famous hockey stick graphs.

extrapolation is a valid tool for a steady state system where all the variables are known but not otherwise.

I used it as shorthand for eisegesis because eisegesis reduces context and uses a lot of presupposition.

its not right that reformed brethren should reccomend eisegesis - thats not reformed, my feeling is that they were misleading

the presentation is at the quaker (apostate ) meeting house, dean street, bangor, gwynedd (opposite satans church the paragon night club )

Girl wrote:
It seems to me that the church itself needs to change; and begin practising what we preach.

ha ha thanks bro !

exegesis is taking scripture at face value within context, eisegesis is extrapolation i have no idea why such strange words came to be used !

John UK wrote:
What's eisegesis DJ?
Anyhow, I've been taught in several Reformed churches to work it out like this: If you take an event like Pentecost, where it is recorded that five thousand men were baptised, you have to add on approximately five thousand more for women and children, because these figures for men exclude all the women and children. That's what I've been taught anyway.
Ooooops!

John UK wrote:
Many look to election, only as a means of assurance that they are saved, but it is far better to be convinced of sin and trust the Redeemer from sin

musing wrote:
Well, well, the Prince is amused by "crackling" and "hoovering" - what a lighthearted fella.

wake up wrote:
well put ..
Over here A caller I heard on the radio said they tried to ring the swine flue hotline and all they got was crackling..not good.. also heard a politictian over there has shares in vaccination company, probably not true either..

rhymnrzn2zion wrote:
Inwardly, sure. Outwardly, who is the righteous judge, and who bears the Christian culture? show me one that is properly built upon the Early Church doctrine. If its not by the order of what is written in Scripture, its because there's no light in the body assembled, and the ship is bound to be wrecked inwardly and outwardly.