1. Your comment begs the question. You have been resorting to this deceptive means a lot. This demonstrates the bankruptcy of your position.

"It refers I believe to peoples in general as a large group out of all the world."

The semantics game.

1. You are speaking in generalities. You believe that the world is reffering to the elect. No need to be evasive. I was straight forward with you, show some backbone and be straightforward with me. The worst that can happen to you is being hit over the head by the devastating truth. This is not so bad unless you hate the truth.

"I believe Christ in speaking to Nicodemus in John 3:16 1 stating a great and rich truth about God..and at the same is correcting the wrong thinking of Nicodemus. He was thinking as a proud religious Jew. The Holy Spirit revealed to him...and to us all...that God sent His Son into the world as in not just the Jewish nation. The best way I can word it would be world as in all people groups and nations in opposition to the narrow Jew-only "world" of the Jews.:

The problem with your analysis (I see that you refuse to consider) is that in John 3:16 there is no comparison/contrast made between the Jew and the Gentile. In fact the word Gentile is not even mentioned in John. You supposing what was in the mind of Nicodemus is isogesis.

Its the Calvinistic way of twisting the Bible to conform to their presuposition rather then allowing their presupositions to conform to the Bible.

Mike, as hard as it is for you to swallow, there are various passages where the gentiles and jews are compared and contrasted, but John chapter 3 is not one of them. I know that may be the closest thing you have (though you still have a way to go) to explaining away the plain meaning of the word "world," but the context speaks nothing of what you mentioned.

No.

I agree. But this is determined by the context not by your unfounded presuposition.

One thing is for sure, world has never been reffered to the elect.

Examples of how it can be used:

Animal world
underworld
world of politics
Latin World

Actually its called forcing you to deal with what the verse actually says. Instead of jumping around through an endless loop of versus which you also strip from its context.

How silly is that. You are unwilling to deal with what the verse actually says, but you want to appeal to another verse were you also refuse to deal with what it says.

I find it quite humorous how the Calvinist constantly try to switch the tables. I accuse them of something, and its not long before they accuse me of the same thing. Not only are they bankrupt of scriptural proof; they are bankrupt of any original criticism!

"Your outright refusal to look at Psalms where God is angry alongside John 3:16 only further clarifies the fact that you have no real desire to hammer out these truths for yourself, and seem to only refer back to one verse for your systematic theology. I reject a theology based on one verse. This leads to all manner of possible confusions and "rabbit trails" "

Oh I have a storefull of versus, but unlike you I rather stick to one at a time. Verselaunching does nothing to advance the debate. And as I said before, if you are not willing to come to a consensus in one verse, what makes you think that we will reach a consensus in another verse?

We do not have to agree but we can come to a consensus. This you are unwilling to do.

I'm not even a Calvinist when it comes to preaching the gospel, but a three point Christian. It's all about Christ: Death, Burial, Resurrection. On these three precious truths rests all the glorious grace of God and hope for humankind."

Unfortunately, that's not the case. Firstly, I have yet to have a Calvinist knock on my door. Even in my large circle of influence they have not had a Calvinist knock on their door neither. It seems to me that your theology is conducive to evangelical laziness.

People of my faith have a stronger fervor for the lost because we do not believe that the amount of the elect has been settled, we believe that salvation is available for all of mankind. We also believe that one's destiny is not settled but that we can be used by God to alter the destiny.

and its right in front of your eyes as well.

"For God so loved the world..."

I approach people in this forum as they approach me. If they approach me hard, I will approach them in like manner. The only difference is that I do not attack them personally, I attack their ideas and point out how silly they are.