1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

A real bishop is to be the husband of one wife...

TB wrote:
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Jesus is clear: Branches that bear no fruit are cut off and thrown into the fire.
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I thank you for the conversation and I'm favorable towards your objective to magnify holiness during this fallen age but we can not do so at the expense of the gospel. Jesus paid it all. Eternal salvation is because of what he did, not because of what we did, do or will do.

You have some verses I have not fully responded to with an explanation. This is a challenging forum to properly do so.

However, I do want to say all of the scriptures that you will point to for works and all of the scriptures I will point to for the grace of God are all reconcilable.

You mention, the branches verse and no fruit = fire.

Now take that verse and combine it with one I recently quoted.

1 Corinthians 3:15 - If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

A believer who's work shall be burned will suffer loss, but he himself shall be saved (yet so as by fire). Holiness matters, not for eternal salvation, but for rewards which will be good for good behavior and bad for bad behavior.

TB wrote:
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What would possibly make someone want to say things like "sons of God can walk in the flesh"? This is a very strange kind of Christ-like purity and deliverance from sin that you espouse.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

If you could say, I do not look at pornography like those others do therefore I am saved, there would be room for boasting.

It does not justify sin, it does not mean Christ won't chasten those who engage in unrepentant sin, but it does mean the shed blood of Jesus Christ is sufficient to cover the sins of all men that receive his free gift of salvation.

TB wrote:
Rufus: "Nor can one evaluate whether one is saved or unsaved according to their fruit."
Really? I think that many want to think this because they suppose they are justified IN their sin.
Try this instead, as Jesus said: "by their fruits ye shall know them... depart from me ye that work iniquity."
...Those who are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God!
Faith without works is dead.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Sodom and Gomorrah wrote:
SBC Pastor Jay "Dennis believes the figure [of regular pornography use by male Southern Baptists] is more like 80 percent."
So instead of 16 million Southern Baptists there are really closer to 8-9 million or less? Those who use pornography aren't saved.
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Mr b wrote:
Why aren't we in an uproar over this? The musliums would be literally killing people.

Kyle wrote:
I've read most of Secrets of the Federal Reserve. I have also read Secrets of the Temple in it's entirety. Yes, Griffin quotes a lot of these sources.
Wouldn't that have to be your 7.425 grains (2 cents)?

Kyle wrote:
I would start with The Creature From Jekyll Island by Ed Griffin. From there, I would read Modern Money Mechanics published by the Federal Reserve.

John Yurich USA wrote:
If Benedict XVI did something illegal then he should go on trial. And how can anybody in their right mind state that the Catholic Church is a Cult? The Catholic Church does not fit the definition of a Cult which is a religious organization that does not worship Jesus as God and denies the Holy Trinity. The Catholic Church has always worshipped Jesus as God and believes in the Holy Trinity.

there is hope wrote:
Society requires protection from and in a fallen world so God allows the military in all its forms...

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Rufus may I point out,
Proverbs 5
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I would say watching too many televangelists will also soften the brain.

jpw wrote:
glad someone enjoys a little dry humor. do you have a good water filter? ...

Proverbs 5:15 - Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well.

...and so long as I'm in the city I can't get this done. Therefore, I am intending a relocation this year to a more rural environment for this and other reasons.

jpw wrote:
flouride, that's a no brainer.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
First of all I'm sympathetic to this family. It would have been good if the Justice Dept. had stayed away from this, one has to remember though, if Christians get to home school, so do [URL=http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm]]]Muhammad[/URL]ans. [URL=http://www.jpost.com/LandedPages/PrintArticle.aspx?id=303353]]]Behind the Lines: Conquest through proselytizing[/URL]. Germany has a big Islamic problem, and thanks to the likes of Bush--and others we imported many anti-American Islamists into this country as well.
So, I can see Germany's problem, we should not be the ones trying to fix their mess, by sending back people who apparently worthwhile members of American society, and our obeying our laws. Perhaps deportation of Islamists who are disobeying our laws should be pushed more vigorously?