Wise wrote:
The funniest part of the interview if you folks did not catch it was that he believes God sent his son. To believe in the incarnation takes more literalism and faith than saying you believe or don't believe the book of Jonah. George Bush is a Christian who has never had Biblical teaching.

J. Augustine wrote:
Camping is not claiming anything that God has not made public.

Alex says, "If I tell my wife there's going to be a football game on TV at 3:00, and right at 3:00 a game comes on, my wife doesn't go, "Oh, Alex, you're psychic. How did you KNOW that?" I'd say, "Well, Honey, I read the TV Guide."

The Bible is full of prophecy; Texe Marrs, Walter Veith combine history, current events and Bible propecy. Texe's books written 10 years ago read like today's news.

CFR, Trilateral, Club of Rome, etc. have journals, books that annouce their NWO plans and when; also govt. declassified docs, exec orders, reveal much.

Alex Jones has a well-tuned radar becausae he lives and breathes fighting the NWO, watching culture trends to discern the plans of the "enemy".

lyn wrote:
Now, are you a Muslim Banned? It certainly isn't a taunting question, for you open yourself to such by coming on these boards and posting. So Banned, are you a Muslim?

And since you think I am a liar, what difference would it make no matter what I said? You don't accept what I say even when you inadvertently bring in quotes that prove I was corect.

If I said I was a Muslim, would you call Homeland Security to report my "suspicious, dangerous, scary" behavior you complained about earlier, to Mr. Chertoff, the Mossad guy running the agency now?

Do you think only Muslims could ever find a kind word to say about other Muslims or their religion, that all Christians are warmongering Zionists ready to turn their brother or sister in to the thought police.

lyn wrote:
I ask you again Banned, are you a Muslim?

I can't reproduce your quotes in the short space allowed, and I don't like being called "dangerous" or a liar or scary. So stop demanding and taunting me to reply to your postings because I don't wish to discourse with you, and you aren't going to bully me into doing it.

lyn wrote:
Banned~ do yourself a favor...read the entire article before you go off on your rants!

This article is nothing but war propaganda. So what if an Egyptian cleric said such and such, wanting Obama to convert, and if not at least please get the troops out. Maybe we should go to war with Iran now that this Egyptian Muslim cleric said these things?

Put yourself in the shoes of the Muslims. Would you want a bunch of foreigners stomping all over your lands with guns and tanks, blowing up buildings and shooting families, all the depleted uranium, dead children, torture? Would you like that? Why can't you understand their hope that Obama will help them?

Also, the article had words inserted and the cleric was made to seem to say things he did not say such as "implying suicide bombers would strike American targets." There were other words inserted throughout that were not the words of this cleric.

lyn wrote:
Banned ~ JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION! What is the fate of the Muslim? The Roman Catholic? The Mormon? The lost soul from all walks of life? What is the eternal destination of all the aforementioned apart from repentance and believing in the Gospel?

What is the spiritual fate of the Jews?

You said before that the Bible teaches they are all going straight to Heaven, every single one. Even though they hate and despise Jesus and the Christian religion.

Now you are holding to strict standards of belief wanting to know about the Muslims and others.

You really think God has two different standards of salvation, that the Jews get in just for being Jews even if they hate Jesus, and the rest go to Hell even if they love Jesus?

I told you before I believe it would be much easier to win a Muslim to Christ than a Jew or a Mormon or a Catholic because they are 90 percent there.

lyn wrote:
... Ashbal states{Egyptian cleric extending the invitation of conversion to Obama}Ashbal further warns there will be no peace 'as long as a single Muslim child lacks food, drink, medicine, or housing', implying suicide bombers would strike American targets...
Yep, those poor Muslims are really takin' it on the chin!

Israel has said they are going to attack, whether there is an excuse or not, and the U.S. has said they will put an oil blockade against Iran, which is an act of war, and will starve them and crush them.

We know what happened to Iraq, because they had no WMDs to surrender.

And if an Egyptian cleric is quoted saying these things, let's hype it up and maybe that might be enough of an excuse to blow Iran off the map?

lyn wrote:
With that said, what is the point of stating Muslims are a little more 'on track' than others? What is the fate of the Roman Catholic? What is the fate of the Jehovah's Witness? The Mormon?

If you mean what happens to their soul, I asked that same question about the Jews and you seem to think they are just fine going to Heaven, even if they hate Jesus. So you answer my questions and I will answer yours.

I didn't ask if it mattered if one religion was closer to Christianity than another. I asked if you agreed that the Muslims were closer to Christianity than the Mormons, Catholics and certainly most of all the Jews, considering they believe Jesus is the Messiah, born of Virgin Mary by HG, and ascended bodily to Heaven.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Interesting. Return to [URL=http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm]]]Muhammad[/URL]ism or we'll attack you, also in this blackmail package we have to give aid to the servants of Satan? only a fool wouldn't recognize the [URL=http://www.answering-islam.org/Books/Barton/11.htm]]]Inadequacy of Islam[/URL].

And how are they going to attack us? They cannot lift a finger against us as we send al CIAda in to terrorize them. If they fight back, we will accuse them of "terrorism" and blow them away.

So they take it on the chin.

I don't see how Christians can stand by and ignore the plight of people around the world who are victims of the runaway rogue government that has infiltrated and taken over the United States.

We must pray and repent and call out to God to stop this horror before we find ourselves right in the middle of a 1984 scenario.

Mike wrote:
Not so, Tony.
Article 3 Section 3:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

It is an outrage. Not only is he not natural born, he is not a citizen at all from what I can determine.

lyn wrote:
... I detest false religions.
Do the Muslims believe in the deity of Christ? Will a Muslim enter into the kingdom of heaven?
This is from a former Muslim {apprising.org}, "Islam rejects not only the death of Christ on the cross and the doctrine of the atonement, but also the deity of Christ. Jesus Christ is the dividing point between Christianity and Islam." from Abdul Saleeb, 'The Dark Side of Islam'.
They may indeed hold to half truths about Jesus Christ, but that is not enough to save them.

The question here is whether Muslims are closer to the truth of Christianity than Catholics, Mormons or Jews.

lyn wrote:
This is what the Qur'an teaches, read this carefully...
"Christ, the son of Mary, was NO MORE than a messenger, many were messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth... ~ Sura 5:75
"Pagans indeed are those who say that God is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah himself said, O children of Israel, you shall worship God, my lord and your lord... " Sura 5:72
So Banned, according to the Muslim bible, those who claim Christ as their Messiah are, according to the Muslim faith, a pagan.

Here they refer to Jesus as the Messiah, son of Mary, say the Messiah is not God, not Allah. It says he is a messenger of Allah, true, but it says MORE than that.
You distort and exaggerate and parse to make your point. That is Satan's way, not the Christian way to seek truth.

lyn wrote:
Banned ~ I never said 'all Israel will be saved', God said it.

lyn wrote:
I simply cannot defend a religion {Muslim} that is against the True God, the True Son.

lyn wrote:
..He is a man, who was a messenger, nothing more; with this claim, [Muslims) deny the deity of Christ.

You make boogeymen out of them, hatemonger and slander them, refuse to concede any truthful point I make, dodge facts, exaggerate and mispresent.

lyn wrote:
.. not understanding the narrow way. It is an exclusive way..

lyn wrote:
Banned - regardless of your hatred of the Jews...

As to the verses you quoted, I don't deny the Bible foretells a future time when a "fullness" of the Jews will be converted.

Meantime, Jews are the enemies of Christ, under a curse, NOT a blessing, and so is everyone ELSE who participates in their evil doing and rebellion and hatred of Jesus.

And read Galatians 4 regarding who is the REAL Israel of God.

To say "all Israel will be saved," does NOT mean every Jew who ever lived will be saved just because he is a Jew. "Israel" is defined in Galatians as believers in Jesus, not Jewish residents of a place on earth called "Israel." This is Zionism, idolizing the Jews, and is why the world is on the brink of WWIII.

If we don't harmonize scripture we'll go off the edge, become warmongers, hatemongers building a "case" against peaceful people who've done nothing to us, in order to cater to Israel and bring on WWIII. Now we ARE talking 'dangerous and radical.'

lyn wrote:
Banned; Your motive shines through, your hatred of the Jews ...sounds like radical Islam. You are a scary individual.

Doesn't the fact that America is destroyed prove that slavish devotion to Israel was never commanded by God as a condition for "blessing?"

Wake up. Jews aren't supergods who get to go to Heaven w/o Jesus, people the world must worship. God broke the Jews OFF the olive tree, and it is Christians, not Jews, who are God's chosen. Honoring (idolizing) people who hate Jesus is not the way to get God's blessing.

Israel was behind 9/11 and Oklahoma, Mossad has totally infiltrated the govt., and these are NOT nice people.

Israel is the child porn and snuff capital of the world, and the Bible calls Jerusalem in the last days "Sodom and Egypt" -- and warns us to beware the Synagogue of Satan.(Rev. 11:8)

Muslims don't fornicate, don't abort, they LOVE Jesus, and they see straight through the Satanic evil culture.

Michael Hranek wrote:
curiouser...religion of the false god of a demon possessed...some would make it out Muslims are almost Christians.. something fishy motivating them...

What explanation do you have for why today America is nearly DESTROYED, gone, after Zionists such as youself have proclaimed BLESSINGS if we'd help the racist Talmudics steal Palestine and arm them with nukes, pour countless billions, gratis, into their wicked government.

Why do you literally idolize racist Zionists who hate Jesus, threaten the planet with nuclear war, and wail to God every day to send their false messiah antichrist to rule in Jerusalem? You support rebuilding their temple to begin sacrifice for sin (a blasphemy), turn a blind eye to Talmudics wearing skullcaps in celebration of Golgotha, the place of the Skull, where Jesus was crucified.

Take Heed wrote:
Banned
Please supply some proven evidence that Rivera was indeed a Jesuit Priest, the bible tell us to seek two or three witnesses.

J. Augustine wrote:
For those of you attacking Camping and his message, what would you have said if you lived in a time where an old kook named Noah was building an ark because God told him He was going to end the world in a great flood? What would you have said if a foreigner named Jonah told you God was about to destroy your city in 40 days? What would you have said if a guy named Lot was rushing to leave your city because God told him it was about to be destroyed? These words came from the Word of God, and Camping points it out to us in the Word of God. He's not telling us he had a dream or vision. Just curious as to what you would have said.

Michael Hranek wrote:
You are omitting (conviently omitting) that Muslims deny that Jesus was crucified and died on a cross..

Now that I have agreed, again, that this part of Christian doctrine is missing, will you acknowledge the parts that are NOT missing -- that Muslims DO refer to Jesus as the Messiah, believe he was conceived by the Holy Spirit of virgin Mary, that he ascended bodily to Heaven without ever dying, and that he is coming back as Messiah to conquer the antichrist and rule the world.